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克里希纳体现了享受的本质,强调真正的幸福在于神圣的爱,超越了世俗的快乐。
亮点
- 😊 享受:克里希纳将生活的终极目的表现为享受。
- 🌌 现实:我们的现实感知往往肤浅;深层的品质存在于表象之外。
- 💞 爱:个体灵魂(jiva)与克里希纳的联系以爱与情感为特征。
- 🍇 甜美:真正的幸福类似于爱的互动中的甜美,超越了物质的享受。
- 🔍 竞争叙事:不同的存在视角塑造了我们对幸福和目的的理解。
- 🌊 意识:与广阔的精神意识相比,物质世界只是沧海一粟。
- 🌟 终极现实:绝对的真正本质是爱、美丽和甜美,体现于克里希纳之中。
关键见解
- 🌈 克里希纳作为享受:克里希纳的目的在于享受,强调了存在的终极目标是通过神圣的连接体验爱与幸福。
- 🔬 现实的深度:爱因斯坦关于现实的名言表明,真正的理解超越了表面现象,揭示了每次互动中的深层潜力。
- ❤️ 爱的本质:灵魂与克里希纳的关系根植于互惠的爱,强调了奉献的本质作为最高形式的享受。
- 🍯 体验的甜美:正如个体在生活中寻求甜美,通过奉献追求精神上的甜美会带来真正的幸福。
- 📖 吠陀视角:吠陀叙事与物质主义观点形成对比,将宇宙描绘为广阔无垠,同时强调内在精神满足的重要性。
- 🌊 意识的海洋:物质世界虽然广阔,却与意识的海洋相比显得微不足道,真正的精神体验存在于其中。
- 🕊️ 对爱的奉献:最高形式的奉献是自我奉献,这将带来深刻的精神体验,并实现我们作为克里希纳爱者的真实本性。
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感谢上天,克里希纳的目的是享乐(笑),就像每个人想要的那样,他就是这种享乐的化身。但别告诉别人。我想起有一次,一些报纸记者在普拉布帕德游历美国时问他,生命的目的是什么。由于我们受过他的训练,也熟悉他的传教风格,我们以为他会给出几个特定的答案,比如生命的目的是培养对上帝的爱,或是生命的目的是自我实现,或者生命的目的...
这是对上帝的领悟,不过在这个特定的时刻,他们说要提倡生活的意义,承诺享受生活,所有的信徒们都有点惊讶。不过大家的反应都还好,哦,享受吧,斯瓦米说,生活的目的就是享受。大多数信徒都震惊了,但接着他停顿了一下,可能是说,现在的问题是我们并没有真正享受生活。戈美特引用爱因斯坦的话说,现实是某种东西加上其他东西,它的潜力不仅仅是表面上看起来的那样。
表面上看,这涉及到潜力和前景,实际上是它的能力或者说前景的能力。Jiva有这种现实的潜力,充满了爱的单位,彼此回馈爱与关怀。克里希纳就像海洋,而我们就像水滴。他进一步说,"我就是那水滴"。他提到,如果水滴有某些特质,那海洋应该也有这些特质。作为海洋的一滴水,我们可以看到这些。
有那么多种感官体验,你可以看到、听到、尝到、触摸到、闻到和感受到,你可以和海洋进行充满爱的互动,而你所缺乏的正是这种能力,这是不可能的,只有更大的存在,无限的爱。阿基拉·拉萨姆·瑞塔像克里希纳一样的奉爱,拉萨姆·瑞塔·辛杜,马哈普拉布,意大利的鲁帕·戈斯瓦米,这片海洋的长度和宽度是无法衡量的。我无法描述一切,但我可以取一滴水来解释,谈谈我在南马里兰州的童年。我们去摘黑莓,而黑莓灌木是很矮的。
你得趴在地上爬着去找,那里面有超好吃的黑莓。那是我和朋友们的经历。我记得有一次我们爬进去找真的好吃的黑莓,结果突然就跟一只乌龟面对面了。乌龟的脸上全是黑莓汁,真是搞笑。它看着我,像是很惊讶,我也惊讶,我们就这样对视着,突然意识到我们俩都在找东西。
他想要甜蜜,我也想要甜蜜,我们都直觉上明白,甜蜜会带来快乐。我们都知道,得到甜蜜就会有快乐。在菲利普·罗斯的一本书里,书中的角色在和朋友还有可能是治疗师进行几乎像心理治疗的会谈。有一刻,他在反思自己的生活、生活中的爱、激情,还有其他一些事情,通过那位治疗师的声音…
人们说,生活中得到的不过是一点点体验,永远无法真正持续地享受这些东西。你得到的只是个味道,对吧?而且我们总是希望能再次体验到那种感觉,就像追逐多巴胺一样,反复去追求这种平凡的快乐,这让人们不断尝试,一次又一次。我们总是在寻找那种无限回报的愉悦经历,而在这个世界上,我们得到的不过是一瞬间、一滴水。
这让我们感到不满足,因为我们渴望不断扩展的美好体验。我提到过,我们面临着相互竞争的叙述。你听到来自不同来源的声音,它们在讲述关于生活、存在、你的目的、你的前景和潜力的竞争故事。有一种叙述说,客观世界、宇宙大概有一万亿颗星星。
好的,所以客观世界几乎是无限的,有无数的星星,超过我们能想象的。在这个有一万亿万颗星星的客观世界里,有一个星球,就是地球,那里有有意识的生物,而人类则是其中的精英。这意味着物质基本上是无限的,而意识则是一种罕见的存在,对吧?意识只存在于这个一万亿万颗星星中的一个星球上,而精英的有意识生物就是人类。
由箭和尘埃组成的人们正在寻找快乐,而这种快乐是意识所赋予的。没有意识,就像麻醉剂一样,你感受不到快乐或痛苦。因此,意识让我们能够感知,而我们天生就渴望幸福。在这个几乎无限的物质世界中,数以万亿计的星球里,拥有意识的精英人类如果运气好,在美好的一天,他们会做些什么呢?
经历一种幸福的下降,这是一种阴暗的情景,根本不足以让你早上起床时想“今天会是美好的一天”。所以在这个情景中,记住我们正在处理相互竞争的叙事。这是其中一个叙事。幸福,或者说“安乐”,处于下降的位置,分子的位置,而意识则稍微高于这个位置,而那种无动于衷、毫无感觉的客观世界就是这样。
庞大的、压倒性的物质就像一个叙述。维达的叙述恰恰相反,幸运的是,这给我们带来了快乐的思考。古鲁马说,整个客观世界就像漂浮在意识海洋中的冰山,意识在支撑着这个客观世界。就像这个桌子,硬的、黑色的,有重量、高度和深度等等,这些都是概念,黑色是个概念,硬是个概念,重量也是个概念,所有这些维度都是如此。
概念是一堆主观的东西,而一堆主观的概念就是一个对象。所以整个客观世界就像漂浮在意识海洋中的冰山。在这个竞争的叙述中,客观世界就像是水滴,是微不足道的;而意识则是广袤的东西。但是,更伟大的是什么呢?那就是安乐或幸福。他们说一切的源头,包括那些香花,万物的本源是什么呢?它的本质又是什么?
幸福化身,狂喜化身,嗯,怎么说呢,以一种没有个性、缺乏形状的方式。有人说不,关于无限的核心概念,我认为这是一个替代的统一场理论。梵天,至高无上的神,包容一切的梵,遍布一切的至灵,这些是无限的极端。比最大的还要大,比最小的还要小,这些都是极端。那么,关于无限的核心概念是什么呢?就是无限的中庸之道。
所有吸引人的梵天,所有包容的普遍灵魂,所有渗透的存在,然后从梵天到至高神,发生了一个重大飞跃。所有吸引人,这意味着美丽,这意味着有个性。这就像是“万物理论”。是的,贤者们在《奥义书》中说,试着去了解那唯一的事物,了解了它就能明了所有事情;努力去获得那一件事,获得了它就得到了全部。三昧和《博伽梵歌》意味着,我觉得,当你拥有了那一切,就没有什么是你得不到的,没什么比这更重要了。
比起这些外国人说的,我更想说的是,当我拥有了你,就拥有了一切。当我听到你的消息时,心里产生的印象让我觉得你是这个世界上最美的存在,超越了这个世界。就像桑达尔·斯林·贝瑟尼说的,那时我明白了为什么有听觉。我知道,她真正想表达的就是要听到你。当我通过听觉感受到你美的形象时,我明白了为什么会有这样的感觉。
我喜欢研究词源和定义。虽然我表面上是个英语母语者,但我每天至少查十次英语词典,看看一些我大致知道意思的词。我是在确认我用得对不对。马克·吐温曾说,合适的词和精准的词之间的区别,就像闪电和一颗子弹的区别。
萤火虫,所以我们有必要花时间认真对待语言并准确使用它们。当谈到美学时,你会发现最近的俄语说法是“美学”——几乎一模一样。但实际上,我们说它的意思是美或对美的研究,确实是关于美的文化。但这个词原来的意思是通过感官所感知的东西,实际上是指感知。所以我想表达的是,最终的目标或对象。
感知就是对现实的感知,终极之美、终极之声、终极之味,你知道的,最美的声音、最美的味道,这就是美学,这就是文化。这就是她想表达的,所以现在我明白了,不仅仅是我们在闲暇时寻找美好的事物,或者想听到美妙的声音,触摸柔软的东西,或者品尝非凡的味道,其实更深层的意义在于此。
这就是推动我们的动力,推动我们存在的原因,克里希那就是所有这些东西,包含了眼睛的快乐、甘露的形象,所有这些融为一体。他是无与伦比的美,名字的声音令人陶醉,笛子的声音、味道、触感、形态的美,形态的运动,所有这些都在这里。这就是我们有感官的原因。当然,也有选择,你知道的,去地狱受苦还是在天堂服务,这种老旧的米尔顿式的撒旦选择。但她说得非常美。
她呃,这个跟赎金信正好相反。一般来说,绑架的时候,绑匪会发个信说我们抓了她,快给我们钱,要不然就没了。但是这个非常美妙,因为鲁克米尼在给克里希纳写信,邀请他来绑架她。她说我被因果法则紧紧包围,但其实我不是为了因果而生,我是为了你。快来带走属于你的东西,也就是我。正如政府所说的,这一切都是为了不被审判,一切都是有意义的。
克里斯蒂安,你知道我们都在这里,她说我被这些业力的环境包围着,真的,我是为了你来这里的,不是要救我,而是要绑架我。就像被克里希纳绑架一样。她在说这就是这一切的意义,这就是审美文化的本质。他说,因为玛雅身体否认了神的个性,神是一个有个性的人,这样反而间接推动了世俗的色情主义,让人们认为那是唯一可能的表达方式。
因为他们否认了神的个性。如果神的个性重新被引入,那么可以引导他们最终朝这个方向去追寻这种满足感。我说得很有背景,所以就像你知道的,Quinta Narayan,这并不是完全不可思议的美好,毫无疑问,但也没有失去克里希纳的甜美。你知道,如果你不正确理解这个问题,比如说,鲁法会怎么想,为什么克里希纳会比你高出那么多呢?其实,他就是这么玩儿的。
这段话的意思是,书里说他和信徒们有甜蜜的娱乐活动,但其实说的是他和他们有“神秘”的互动。我明白为什么用“甜蜜”这个词,但其实是说在克里希纳的乐园中,只有那种情感的本质才能完全展现。如果要详细说的话,就是克里希纳和其他神灵之间没有那种世俗的情感。而在维库塔(Vaikuntha)这个地方,跟生育有关的东西也不算什么,甚至连神明都不会被克里希纳那种人性化的表现所迷惑。
无限的方面抑制了克里希纳那种人类的娱乐活动。我是人类,神并不是人想象出来的那种形象和样子。我想要的是拟人化,但克里希纳文明是人类文明的模板。就像圣经所说的,按神的形象和样式造的,对吧?可不是一千只手,而是两只眼睛、两只手,像人类一样。这就是克里希纳的阿帕契乐趣,人类般的娱乐活动,体现了无限的中心概念,即至高的个性。
神性能够看、听、尝、触、闻、感受,能够同时凝视每个人的眼睛,直到那个克里希纳的中心观念显现出来。每一个人都在相互包容,彼此渗透,那个中心是什么?是吸引力,是每个人都被吸引向中心,就像重力一样。但这个重力是什么?是美丽、魅力、甜蜜、爱和情感。这正是我们与生俱来的追求,寻找的是希里·克里希纳的真实——那美丽的真实、那充满爱的真实、那甜美的真实、那温柔的真实。
克里希纳就像是快乐的化身,我们常说他是快乐的化身,他就是这样的人,他所代表的就是爱、亲情、狂喜和幸福,这一切都能包容万物。整个客观世界就像是意识海洋中浮动的一堆概念和物体。其实,真正微小的东西就是这个客观世界,里面有各种所谓的行星,虽然看起来好大,但我们听到的却是外面的声音。宇宙就像是从他的毛孔里冒出来的。
嘿,像金蛋一样,然后它们扩展到十亿乘十亿,无论你用什么标准来衡量,它们都很大。在我们开始讨论大和小的刻板印象之前,因为当你面对无限时,你得不断重新思考,所以我们认为整个目标规则,从贫困中走出来,然后非常小,但我们被告知,嗯,外面有这么多宇宙,但在那个世界里。
那些无数的维库恩塔星球,如果你把它们合在一起,我们被告知那是冰雪之地,拥有无限的奢华,把这一切结合起来,就是一个“陈塔玛尼”的地方。我们被说这个领域就像一粒土壤,而现在去看看,但那一定是非常伟大的。我们被告知那有16个克罗切,差不多是50万平方公里。到这个时候,我们的脑袋应该要爆炸了。他说,等等,还有那么多的亿亿万颗星星。
他们融入了诗中,一个宇宙融入了贫瘠的世界,然后整个维库恩塔又融入了一个人间,而那个领域只有50平方公里。你看,这很矛盾。我觉得我们得放弃用我们这些世俗的东西来测量,比如我们的思想和智慧,去测量无限。所以布莱克让你用理智去思考,你知道的,他像是拿着一个水下的圆规,像米开朗基罗画的那些人物一样,你知道的,上帝有个胡子,这也是一件悲哀的事。
真的,就像给你孩子起名叫哈姆内特一样(笑)。这就像是,上帝应该是无限美丽的存在,而不是一个躺在天花板上的老肥白 guy,留着长胡子,真是太可悲了。而米开朗基罗,他在很多方面都很伟大,我跟他根本没得比,我连画个圈都不会,顺便说一下,画圈很难,所以有些艺术家专门练习画圈,但就这些吧。
你看,这里显示了我们在赞美谁,还有另一个预示,他们真的很棒,我很欣赏他们的艺术,别误会我的意思,但我想说的是,我们赞美的人就像是超越一切的天才,然后他们能想到这样的事情。最年长的人听着狮子的其余部分,但他也是永远有用的,所以再次打破了陈规,最年长的那位还留着大长胡子,我是说,真的,永远有用,所以这就是这种矛盾。所以,当……其实这是摩诃普鲁的例子。
你知道,当他们在谈论奢华的甜蜜时,发出“戈斯瓦米”的声音是很好的。他说,就像你有一桶甘蔗汁,然后开始煮它,你可以把它变成糖蜜,继续煮下去,印度那边叫“古尔”,在湿的状态下就像是一种几乎像太妃糖的东西,古尔开始变得更咸,再继续下去,最终你会得到像岩石糖一样的小块糖果,换句话说就是这样。
这个巨大的甜蜜被浓缩成了一个小小的东西。他举的例子是,把所有的Vaikuntha Dwar和那些奢华集中在一起,结果还不如一颗Chintamani宝石和Goloca。但这其实是重点,记得Mahaprabhu喜欢在闭门的情况下和Ramananda一起听Krishna Marathon。他说,那些Chintamani宝石的奢华,远远超过了所有Vaikuntha的财富。
世界上的兄弟们,女牧童们把它们串起来,作为圣莲花脚上的脚链穿着。那么,什么是伽洛卡,克里希纳的人类般的游戏是什么呢?这其实不是知识,而是快乐,这意味着心和爱。奥斯卡·王尔德曾开玩笑说,最好的快乐形式就是那些无法满足的,因为这样就会有更多的渴望。那么,我们在世俗的快乐中发现了什么呢?人们似乎变得满足了。
反应通常表现为痛苦,而在灵性中,我们可以看到平行的精神世界里,奉献者们的眼睛有时被比作蜜蜂在品尝主的莲花脸上的蜜。尽管他们可能不断地这样做,但他们并不满足,反而更渴望见到克里希纳。他们不会像一个印度人对我说的那样,我告诉普拉布帕德他问我关于我在印度布道的事,那位印度人说:“我们进来就会说,哦,我知道克里希纳是什么。”
你知道,可能有人会说那是他们的病,所以当我们谈到年轻的Sundaram Achintia Guna Swarup时,提到Krishna的Shamasunder形态,那是什么呢?这就是Achintia Gunas的特质,那种形态的品质是不可思议的。我的意思是,她美得让人难以想象,不仅仅是想想我们这里见过的最美的人,把那个乘以一百,一千,甚至都不算什么。就是说,你看Krishna再多也永远不会满足,这不可能,为什么呢?因为最终的结果是这样的。
你只是想要更多,没什么能比得上这一点。哦,看到克里希纳的样子,我觉得挺不错的,我对此很满意,下周我会再来的。我觉得这辈子就够了。你知道,她说你永远不会因为看到克里希纳、闻到克里希纳,或是参与各种感官活动而感到满足。你永远达不到饱足的状态,总是会想要更多。所以比尔·孟戈尔在他名字中提到的,克里希纳是多么甜美啊。
克里希纳看起来既美丽又甜美,他在说。但当你看着他时,他真的很漂亮。不过如果你仔细看他的脸,他的甜美感更强。不过,如果他脸上挂着微笑,那微笑会比他的脸更甜美,真的超级甜。所以当女牧羊女们看到克里希纳甜美的微笑时,她们这些本身就难以想象的美丽,变得更加美丽。克里希纳看到她们的美丽增加,他的美丽也随之提升,就这样形成了一种竞争。
美的东西超出了我们现在的理解范围。詹姆斯·乔伊斯有个短篇小说,我们叫它《艺术家的肖像》之类的。这两个大学生在讨论美学,讨论美的文化、诗意的美和艺术。他们还在谈论箭,其中一个人说,如果某样东西真的是美的,那就不应该有任何平凡的反应。记得普里克·阿德米拉杰吗?
他被诅咒七天后要死,现在正在绝食,连水和固体食物都不喝不吃。不过他在这句里说自己既不口渴也不饿,实际上他所失去的只是对世俗的渴望,根本没有对世俗事物的渴求,无论是字面上还是比喻上。他不再渴望任何世俗的东西,不管是细微的还是粗糙的,这一切都是因为他在饮用解脱物质存在痛苦的“药水”,也就是听关于克里希纳的故事。
特别是作为和拉达哈尼以及女牧羊人们的巴勒斯坦人,他说我不渴,其实我感觉就像在喝甘露。关于“穆查拉曼提查”的解释就是,谈论克里希纳是多么令人满足。他说就像人们在吃东西时感到的那种享受和满足,这里不仅仅是个比喻,完全是滋养和满足,享受吃东西的强烈程度就是他们互相滋养的强烈程度。
听到和谈论克里希纳,这叫做“图莎提”,但“拉曼提”指的是一种情色快感,他们通过谈论克里希纳来体验这种强烈的快感。所以其实信徒们是寻求快乐的人。你想,他们放弃了世间所有的快乐,生活一定很悲惨,没有幸福可言,他们放弃了一切,数着自己的珠子。可不是这样的,雅穆纳查尔吉说,自从我开始谈论克里希纳以来,我一直在体验这些。
他说如果我没记错的话,心灵会反思一些事情,如果我回忆起过去那些像是性方面的事情,他说我曾经觉得那是快乐,但现在觉得很不堪。他的意思是我们可能不说出来,但就像贾穆纳河的潮流一样,这已经足够给我们一个暗示:不要对那些在灵性生活中的人抱有刻板印象,不要把这些误解强加到更高层次的修行者身上,他们其实是享受生活的,过得很快活。
他们不是过着缺乏的生活,只是没有享受过什么,并不是说他们享受的东西超出了我们能想象的范畴。那种享受,比如吃那些调味品带来的满足感,还有拉曼特·克里希纳意识,并不是跟感官剥夺有关系的。和尚们的房间被称为“牢房”,然后他们吃的稀饭,稀饭就是你能想象到的最差的食物。
食物被推到你知道的小缝隙和门下,他就在里面,你知道,像是自我惩罚,因为我太罪恶了。换句话说,这种禁欲和无知或激情的模式会让你提升到更高的境界。伟大的奉献者,比如达斯·戈斯瓦米和其他人之所以对这个世界的欲望如此淡薄,是因为他们内心充满了甘露般的物质,他们只取所需,留足够的能量维持身体,所以他在喝酪乳。
对,但他们在狂欢,你知道的,呃,你知道的,克里希纳的聚会形式就像是一个节日,呃,每一方面克里希纳的神圣形态就像是丘比特的节日。所以我们不能认为我们所拥有的,呃,或者我们应该避免说,就我们所理解的克里希纳意识而言,我们在努力,并且我们试图说服其他人去考虑这个,但我们不应该自欺欺人,以为我们已经完全理解了克里希纳。
更高的信徒们认为的那些情况,跟我们现在的状态相比,稍微好一点,其实这种想法是很冒犯的。他们谈论的那些,比如说“bhakti Rasam Rita Sindhu”和“甘露般的 rasa”,还有鲁帕·哥斯瓦米所说的,信徒们的状态,其实不只是像潜水员。我在夏威夷见过,他们有火山口可以游泳,有些人去浮潜,戴上面具,然后根据……
潜水员的能力,有些人可以下去,然后再浮上来。他没有把他们和潜水员比较,而是说他们就像生活在深海底部的水生动物。如果说我们可能触碰到水面,算是很宽容的说法,那我们所惊讶的就更不用说了。他说他们就像是深潜入这片奉爱之海。鲁帕·戈斯瓦米在《奉爱之海》的开头给了这句诗。
他是在帮助我们理解什么是克里希那的奉爱。我们如果更细致地探讨现实,深入了解这个方向,就能体会到那种精神,以及什么是无限的精神快乐。戈斯瓦米在书的开头引用了这句话,提到“梵乐”,这是他的宣传。他在说,如果你对世俗快乐有一些了解,那在此之上,还有瑜伽士和梵乐者的这种精神快乐。
适应性乘以一万亿也比不上从克里希纳的奉爱中获得的一丝快乐。可以说,这就是一个广告,至少应该引发想象,问问自己这是真的吗?有没有什么办法能让我们一窥其可能性?所以,在启示真理的影响下,信仰的文化正在指引我们往这个方向走,自己给自己做榜样,这是一种必然。
为了传播《巴哈伐特》,他就像我们所说的阿布拉莫瓦迪一样。他的地位很重要,因为他在社会中赢得了人们的尊重,而这在此时显得尤为关键。他所处的这个位置非常重要,因为像这样的人,鲁法说“婆罗门安达就会变成 Asia guni bhakti 的至高无上的体验”,这些婆罗门安达们所经历的,正是通过对梵的领悟而体验到的幸福。
这让他们觉得色情快感简直可怕,所以他们被认证为没有世俗的性兴趣。这就是苏卡德夫的角色,他在说什么呢?他说,通过倾听,我开始理解,听到的东西是乌塔玛。当我从我父亲维达·维亚斯那里听到拉达和克里希纳以及那群女牧人的故事时,我才意识到这之前我根本不知道这是可能的。他就是能够证明这一点的人。
“那些故事并不平常,因为他从出生起就对那些平常的事情毫无兴趣。那个人,为什么他会如此着迷?如果这些事情没有灵性上的品质,师父会问,为什么那位外表无可挑剔的沙门,为什么他会如此迷恋拉达和克里希纳的故事,还有那些女牧羊人?除非这些故事并不平常。”
如果这些事情很普通,他根本不会感兴趣,但他却对这些消遣完全痴迷,所以这就说明它们有不同的品质。这一点很重要。同时,我们也在提到,克里希纳的消遣超出了心智和 intellect 的理解,超越了感官所能感知的,比如视觉、听觉、味觉、触觉、嗅觉等等。它们是在思想中构想出来的,属于智力的范畴。那么,我们在做什么呢?克里希纳意识的项目到底是什么?我们刚才已经说过了整个讲座的内容。
到现在为止是关于这个可能性的讨论,现在我们说用你的感官、思维和智慧来看,这不可能。好吧,戴夫说,超越这个领域,我看到的不是普通的形态、普通的人,普通的关系。这就是为什么《巴哈伽瓦塔》里的每一个部分都是重要的。他之前被认可过,记得他是个16岁的男孩,赤裸裸地徘徊。然后他路过一个女人们在裸泳的池塘,普通的现代16岁男孩会怎么反应呢?我们就不提这个了,好吧。
戴夫说他们什么都没看到,连一点利用倾向的痕迹都没有,这很重要,所以他已经被认证了,对平凡的女性形态或平凡的性没有兴趣。那么他听到关于克里希纳和普拉贾戈皮的情色消遣,这让他完全着迷。那么这告诉我们什么呢?在纯粹的奉献中有潜在的情色。马丹·莫汉、弗洛伊德、爱神丘比特正在驱动这个世界,情色原则在推动着,让这个星球旋转。
所以又有人提到马丹·莫汉,大家都被库比德和克里希纳的美丽迷住了,库比德自己也感到困惑。这也意味着库比德的迷人影响力可以通过将注意力转向马丹·莫汉克里希纳来打破,克里希纳是充满魅力的。这就是它的意思,对吧?这非常直观,也很感性。这个精神的追求需要更深层次的理解,掌握正确的视角。因此,萨拉斯瓦蒂·塔库尔的语言复杂性是为了拯救我们。
把那些错误的、污染的对爱的概念强加于至高存在和他的爱心伙伴们,这简直是个灾难。冷静的欲望就像浓厚的黑暗,而纯净的祈祷就像阳光明媚的光芒。北极和南极虽然很相似,但实际上却大相径庭,意味着自我满足、自我中心、以自我为中心,试图取悦克里希纳的感官。真正的纯粹奉献,就是让克里希纳悦心、打动他内心的。
通过身体和心灵的媒介,表达出内心对这些东西的渴望,指向灵魂的真实本质,就像一个会看、会感受、会品尝、会闻的存在。这些体验不仅仅是为了短暂的满足,而是我们不断追求感官体验的常态。这是自然的,但在某种程度上变得人造。可能是因为我们对克里希纳的自然爱被扭曲成对物质的欲望。就像人们那样兴奋。
他们说有些电影明星或者名人会参加颁奖典礼,然后会出现一些著名的演员或者女明星,观众看到他们都会感到兴奋。采访的人跟他们聊天,假设这是直播,所以现场气氛很热烈。但对那些演员来说,他们其实并不知道,虽然表面上看有成千上万的人在观看,但就算是为了说明这一点,他们并没有回馈观众的感受。你懂我意思吧?我想在某种程度上你可以为这个观点辩护。
但这不是一种有意识的方式,而是克里希纳作为绝对存在,如果通过某种媒介看到,某个奉献者的心就会被激发出来,我是说在真正奉献的意义上,那么克里希纳就能以不低于施瑞玛提·拉塔的方式来回应这种心情。这句话告诉我们,谁能满足我们存在的每一个原子、每个肢体、每个方面,并回应每个灵魂对看到、品尝、触摸、嗅闻、感受和爱的渴望。
谁能做到这一点呢?毕竟我们在想,我能找到一个人吗?在这个80亿人口的世界里,真的有一个人能为我做到这一点吗?这可真难。就像我提到的,所有的社交媒体最初的目的是什么?还是想把人们聚在一起,对吧?所以,大家认为有了这么多数据,找到灵魂伴侣应该比以往任何时候都容易,只要输入一些信息,勾选几个选项就行了。
机器人搜索所有人的数据,也许我透露的资料不够多,我会越来越多地分享自己。喜欢这个人的人也喜欢那个人(笑)。现在没法做到,但那些真的想要的人也会喜欢这个人(笑)。我觉得现在应该比以前简单多了,我们有那么多人的数据,所以应该一按按钮就能找到灵魂伴侣,应该就是这么简单。但实际上并没有那么简单,因为我们在追求理想的搜索。
标准和理想其实是同义词,绝对的东西才能产生我们所渴望的那种感觉。但正如普拉布帕德所说,我们对神的个性了解得还不够,仍然把上帝看得很抽象,遥不可及,不是那种你能拥抱的存在。因此,必须有一个过程,让人们逐渐重新理解绝对存在的个性。这就是克里希纳意识运动的目标。
人与神的联系让我们与至高无上的神格建立了爱的关系,而这位神就是克里希那。真正的爱就是克里希那的爱,这就是心灵的能力所在。因此,心灵对其他替代品总是会感到失望,无法得到满足。只有通过与克里希那的联系,才能找到解脱。她自己也说过,听到关于克里希那的一点点感悟,就能释放心中的洪流,这就是这个二元世界。
一切跟热、冷、快乐、痛苦等等有关的事都会结束,最后她也会卖掉一切,为什么呢?为了某些人,或者为了所有人,就像先知在给种植者的明信片上说的。我对人类文明真的是感到恶心,动物们对我来说反而显得更友好。你看,到了这种地步,你的物质生活被毁了,然后发生什么呢?他们就像鸟一样游荡,我们说它们来,抓点东西就走,根本没有固定的居所。
但是那些鸟儿,意思是说Hunza,他说最终的结果是你变成了一个Parma Hangzha。我们被告知在那些看似平常的事情中,有什么特定的品质或者能力,他们可以从中提取精神的本质。这又回到了我们所处的情况,怎么去理解这个,他们如何能从任何看似因果的环境中提取出精神的本质呢?比如说,哦,克里希那的友好之手在背后,这很好,它正在摧毁我的雄心。
物质世界让我相信,它可能会说的话,或者说这里不是什么绅士的地方,还有很多其他的事。我是说,你的小幻想会被摧毁,你在这个世界上实现自己前景的想法会被打破。当然,身处新手的位置让我们感到紧张,甚至有些警觉,因为我们的信念还不够成熟。但是像我们在乡下听到的高人,他们在祈祷,希望能有更好的生活。
当谈到财富和美貌时,很多人会觉得这些是优势,但其实这些都是障碍。因为它们让我们误以为在这个世界上有希望。而对于那些没有物质财富或者已经耗尽的人来说,情况就更难了。不过,事实上,物质上失去的人更容易接近你。每天我们都看到很多东西,它们让我们想起自己的经历。
我们每天都能看到很多事情,你想到了什么呢?这就是重点,大家现在看到的东西都是一样的,互联网让一切变得公平。现在每个人都知道别人知道的事情,没什么是别人不知道的,或者你找不到的,实际上都能在瞬间找到。所以问题在于我们该如何解读这些事情,是不是应该根据内心想要的来衡量呢?
心灵所追求的,感官所渴望的,衡量和建立价值或无价值的标准是什么?有利的、不利的、可取的、不可取的,我们该如何看待或解读?我们说物质存在的海洋,对吧?对,这意味着狂欢的海洋已经缩减成小牛蹄印中的水。所以想想,这样的变化意味着什么?原本是海洋,现在却只剩下一滴水,这代表着一种视角的转变。
一种新的视角,以前看起来浩瀚无边的现在变成了一滴水。现在我们朝着另一个方向走。不过,维希纳·查克拉伯提·塔博说了一些很有意思的话,他说一般来说,信徒们对物质存在保持一种健康的恐惧是好的。没人应该觉得自己是安全的,没人应该说“我挑战玛雅”,你知道的,点点点,是的,她可以的。你知道,挑战玛雅不是个好策略。有时候,古鲁德夫甚至像是在安抚玛卡利女神,你知道的。
意识到这是她的地盘,得跟她保持好关系。不过,对平凡的健康恐惧让信徒们保持真实和专注,像是受到保护。他说,另外,维什瓦纳特以他的解读能力闻名。他说,这段经文的另一个看法是,海洋被缩小成经济的牛蹄印中的水。其实我们崇拜的是牛,戈温达和克里希纳,给他们洗澡的那个阿比舍克,他在说的就是这个。
其实这些事情从信徒的角度来看是有利的,我们又回到了把逆境解读为对精神文化有益的观点。这让我们不得不更深入地去探索现实,而不是只关注外在的事物。我们听说过关于吉祥和不吉祥的吠陀科学,比如说如果有人出门时提着空桶,那是不吉利的;但如果那些桶是装满东西的,那就是吉利的。不过有趣的是,查克·巴尔提·塔克尔会说……
这门学问可以追溯到拉达哈尼女神本人,但她观察这些不同的迹象来判断与克里希纳见面是否合适。这就是我们这门学问的价值。与克里希纳的直接接触在真正的高尚信徒那里收获不多,而间接接触却能带来最丰厚的收获。所以如果拉达哈尼女神看到一棵塔马尔树,那可能意味着与克里希纳有着非常深厚的联系。
《巴哈伽瓦塔》可能是第90章,讲述的是马希希达和德瓦拉卡女王们的离别咏唱,那种情感真是令人惊讶。她们的离愁别绪,让她们和鸟儿以及无生命的事物对话。那只特定的鸟发出一种哀鸣,女王们因思念而失眠,她们会说:“哦,你们和我们一样吗?你们也在这里,因为你们和你们的主分开了。”她们的感受真是让人心疼。
心灵投射到那个环境中,一切都成为心灵的反映。这是一门超越的科学,教我们如何解读世界。一切都是内心品质的反映。当一个设备去到修行者那里时,我现在在这里,我应该提供什么服务?我说哦,当你在修行的时候,你可以帮忙打扫或者做饭之类的。他们不会说类似的话,而修行者则说你的服务就是这样。
获得正确的视角,这是你需要做到的。获得正确的视角,正确的看待事物的方式。你会看到两种不同的东西,这在内心上是另一回事。真正的高层修行者会实时直播他们的乐趣,但我想说的是,我们看待世界和与世界的交易方式都会有所不同。你需要获得正确的视角,学会如何看待一切,这将引导你内心的觉醒。
通过经典的视角来看[音乐],意味着通过听来观察,这有助于我们获得正确的视角。古鲁马哈拉杰会说,解读或看待任何事物的方式,取决于我们立足的地方。如果我们立足于无属性的层面,也就是苏卡德夫开始的地方,那么我们就会从某种角度看待事物,那里到处都有伟大的存在。因此,当我们深入无属性的层面时,这意味着我们在看待客观世界和主观世界。
超级主观的世界,这个超级超级主观的世界就像是去克里希纳的歌剧院,那里的一切都是完美的,会被理解为绝对最高利益的表现。这个“gormore”说要怎么展现苏球和斯里拉姆准备满足克里希纳的内心渴望。在这个世界里,我们基本上是根据中间的标准来运作,区分什么是好的,什么不好,什么是值得追求的,什么不是。
一些不受欢迎的歧视正在发生,但从更高的角度来看,一切都在完美地按照甜美绝对的意志进行。我们必须准备好向这个世界的任性主宰屈服。我们不想受制于别人的心血来潮,但当你面对绝对时,犹豫又有什么意义呢?绝对的善就是绝对的最终善,他的心血来潮是为了所有人和万物的永恒利益。如果你用克里希纳的概念来看待这个问题的话。
其他目的的话,那就不是克里希纳真正的样子,只是以克里希纳的名义,看起来像克里希纳,但其实不是克里希纳。真正跟克里希纳建立联系的时候,你不会想着利用他来满足自己的低级目的,而是会把自己奉献给他,追求他的更高目标。这就是克里希纳的概念,所以必须有仆人、服务者和服务的概念。否则,你只是说我喜欢克里希纳,我喜欢上帝,我喜欢这个,只要他能满足你的低级目的。
我听到美容师今天说我们就是被他利用的,他并不怕用这种语言,无论听起来多政治不正确。我们试图理解被绝对善良所利用的本质,这其实是件好事。独裁者是为了自己而存在,满足自己的目的。我们感到害怕,心存怀疑,但你觉得绝对善良的目的是什么呢?我们需要了解他是谁,他是什么,rasaraj,他的狂喜化身,那今天的意思是什么?
在光的另一边,是美丽的沙玛·桑达尔·克里希纳,他的狂喜化身是美丽,化身是甜蜜,化身是爱和关怀。所以当人们说,哦,神啊,你的母亲在宣扬奴役,所有这些仆人的儿子,仆人的仆人,我们说,你是第一,你是最棒的。而那些玛雅兄弟们说,我就是那伟大的终极,你不知道我是谁吗?戈曼讽刺地说,他们为什么要尊重师父,如果你真的是那样,为什么要这么多的尊重呢?
师父他们不想越界,他们不想不尊重你,应该是平等的。如果你是终极的,那师父是高还是低呢?不过你知道,戈比巴尔说过,要活出仆人的身份,有时候师父必须说你是奴隶,甚至不是直接的奴隶,而是奴隶的奴隶,他更喜欢用“奴隶”这个词,就像是在触动我们每个人内心的人性按钮。所以他们说去找你的母亲,他们在宣扬奴役,萨拉索塔说不,巨人代表的是。
人类的尊严在于甘愿做克里希纳的奴仆,做克里希纳的仆人,这不是一件低贱的事,而是最终的成就。克里希纳告诉阿尔朱那,在《博伽梵歌》中,你可以成为我神圣意志的工具,但你可以选择是快乐地接受这个角色,还是勉强地接受。不过我们应该抵制这种被强加的思维方式。否则,阿尔朱那如果没有选择,为什么还要讨论?《博伽梵歌》又有什么意义呢?
讨论和考虑的各种不同事情,如果没有选择的问题,就会涉及到自由意志这个话题。我提到的两种选择是一种相互竞争的叙述:一种是感官的自由,也就是所谓的西方文明。记得有人问甘地对西方文明的看法,他说我觉得这是个好主意(笑)。所以,感官的自由就是西方文明,而东方文明则是摆脱感官的束缚。
我们都被自己的感官奴役,所以关于我们有多自由、比以前任何人都更受教育、更会独立思考的这一切其实就是个骗局。你知道我在说什么吧?等一下,我马上就到你那儿。我们真的很自由,控制着自己的思想,但实际上我们早就被奴役了。我们以前是奴隶,现在也是奴隶。这就是我们在这个世界上的位置——成为感官的奴隶。所以当你意识到灵魂的层面和政府的运作时,所有这一切就失去了意义。
它对你的影响就像我们之前提到的,因为基督教被称为Rishi案例和Govinda,因为他当时在说哦,这些欲望就像是我们天生就有的东西,然后这些都得停止、放弃、压抑、剥夺、让你饥饿,你知道的,然后你就会从中解脱出来,我想这应该是一个让人快乐的状态。好吧,这不是克里希那意识。我得说,对于那些对现状不满意的人来说,这种微薄的东西。
我们在追求感官享受方面并不是否定者,而是更注重其他的东西。我们并不是说作为精神的存在就应该把注意力放在感官的对象上,因为感官对象是最低层次的。那么,作为有意识的主体,怎么能在获取、控制和消费这些低级的东西中找到快乐呢?所以我们需要重新调整自己,把重心放在更高的追求上。
单位,然后发现你可以拥有完全的感官可能性,献身于超越你的更高的事物,这就是前景。外在的神圣会让你感受到拉达和克里希纳以及弟兄们的甜蜜乐趣,听到这些来自热爱克里希纳的有资格的人会真正治愈你内心的欲望,消除那些未被满足的欲望,我们正试图清洁的目标世界信条是认定的心脏病,这是一种心与心之间的交流。
但目前心里有些纠结,欲望像个绞索一样控制着心,所以它并没有真正表达自己。关于《深心的分数》这本书,心里的真实感受并没有被表达出来。《博伽梵歌》里说,听到克里希纳的故事后,心中的那些欲望束缚就会被解开,真正的心流才会涌现出来。他提到自我释放的概念,说当你用磨石磨香的时候,会有一种声音,这个声音会粘住你,然后你在上面倒玫瑰水。
把石头拿起来,开始把它磨到石头上,结果就是檀香木慢慢磨掉了,那个位置也就完成了。但同时,这种香气四溢的物质正在产生,这就是自我消散的结果。这就是基督教意识的意义,我们要全心全意投入,服务他人,反对剥削的潮流,走上奉献的道路。通过自我消散,我们得以实现这一切。
逐渐变成了一位神医,这样因果的形式就消失了,金色的自我开始显现出来。不过我们会说,当阿玛尔好吧,然后祈祷,之前的意思是与无属性的境界有一种无知的连接。当一个人昏迷不醒的时候,这种状态就被称为戈罗马。在现代社会,我们看到急救人员过来,给他注射一些东西来让他恢复意识,然后他们会问你能听到我说话吗,如果能听到就动动手指。
动动你的手臂,给我个信号你能听到我说话。然后当他们这样做时,他们就醒过来了,可以开始为了自己的更好而合作。得到的功德会引导他们,然后摧毁那些最基本的东西。你听说过克里希那意识,觉得我能理解他们说的一切,但总感觉有什么东西是可能的,那种肯定的态度,只是对听到的内容一种积极的心态,信任和相信,以更有文化的方式。
如果我只追求这一件事,知道这一点就能明白一切,努力去获得这一点,得到一切就是上帝。在《博伽梵歌》的三摩地章节中,当你和我们连接的时候,这一切都是一致的。你会觉得自己拥有了一切,鲁克米尼在《博伽梵》中也是这样,现在我觉得我得到了所有,这是一条贯穿始终的线,那就是信仰,相信吧。
我会把自己交给克里希纳,他会保护我、维持我,我得相信这一点。这样的信念会让我和虔诚的信徒们建立联系,然后把自己放在最优秀的信徒的指导下,学习他们的做法。这样,错误的观念会逐渐转变为正确的观念,而我说的不好的行为也会变成好的行为。接着就是对某种事物的兴趣和品味,刚开始的时候,这种体验是非常痛苦的。
意味着为了灵性觉悟,自愿让自己不方便,但现在人们对那些曾经出于遵循师父的教导或灵性责任而去做的事情有了兴趣。他们喜欢听关于克里希纳的故事,喜欢听关于大圣人的事情,喜欢得不得了。现在,你无法把这些从他们身边带走,他们已经像对待任何东西一样,对这些产生了依恋。
他们现在已经和这个联系在一起了,然后就停止听《博伽梵歌》。那个人说不,我不想这样。他说哦,那你确实有一些欣赏的能力。那么这是什么意思呢?这个“种子”就是他让小虫子发芽了,开出了花。这朵花散发出香气,意味着那个特定的侍奉者的虔诚就像一朵芬芳的花,克里希纳觉得很迷人,他想要不断地去感受那种香气,这给克里希纳带来了快乐。
他们内心所展现的那种虔诚情感,当这种情感加深时,就会表现为祈祷,啊,爱与奉献的状态,但这依然是非常珍贵的。想想看,即使有人只是短暂接触过这种体验,那也是最美好的事情。我记得有一次在洛杉矶的菲洛普罗维登斯花园,他在讲解一个过程,逐步讲述每个阶段,当他讲到祷告时,他说,那就是享受。[音乐]
[笑] 不过那些资本家又会说,享受这个有什么用呢?他们把它称为复利,只有资本家才能理解。他们投资自己的资本,然后利息就来了。你会怎么处理这些利息?人们可能会说,去买点东西,花掉它。但真正的资本家可不是这样,真正的资本家是说,我的利息增加了,资本也增加了,现在资本更多了,利息也会更多。高端的说法就像那样,他们在服务,到了那个时候。
增加服务资本会带来更多的利益,真正的祈祷是享受真正的服务。是的,这意味着他是万物的终极享受者,包括我们自己。这不仅仅是给点东西,捐个花什么的;他希望你能自我奉献,而不是到了自我消亡的地步。我们应该区分自我遗忘和自我消亡,因为有时候看起来它们好像是一样的,但其实并不一样。
自我消亡不是指放弃自我。自我遗忘意味着你在另一个人身上迷失了自己,但你依然保留着自己的身份。在这个世界上,人们在寻找什么样的爱情呢?他们想要完全迷失在另一个人身上,但又想保留自己的身份。这就是自我遗忘,和另一个人合为一体,心灵和心灵的统一。
在保持自我身份的同时,这是一件美好的事情,这就是爱。其实每个人都在渴望这样的东西,但他们并不确定。他们并不是在寻找某个人来控制、获取或消费,以追求幸福、自我实现或满足,而是实际上,真心实意地,在我们内心深处,我们在寻找一个值得你去奉献自己的人。拉古帕提,谢谢。[音乐] 其他人则在寻找至高无上的真理和经典。
布丹人等等,他们想要的是那种从中万物诞生、维持并最终归入的至高无上的梵。这个在《斯摩提》和《摩诃婆罗多》里到处都有提到,甚至在《吉他》中也是这样说的。但是我想知道,梵到底是什么,就像玩具一样,主宰像个爬行的小孩,在他的院子里,谁能相信这个呢?而佩里卡尔玛斯(Pericardmars)也说了一句,南达基姆(nandakim)阿卡罗德(akarode),梵的幸福确实很伟大,是的,院子里,但你给我们展示了克里希纳上帝在她的膝盖上,他正在吮吸她的乳汁。
牛奶,他们做了什么?这意味着什么?他们做什么?他们代表的是无障碍的自然之爱和感情,那种爱和奉献没有任何东西能阻碍。那种爱和奉献是无法被夺走的。他们是否消灭了自己的个性?不是的,但他们正在体验一种甜蜜的忘我状态,神圣的迷失,对克里希纳的爱和目的。只有他们可以被信任,去玩弄绝对的终极真实。那些兄弟的姑娘们和弥兰丹,当他们说“把那个给我”时。
然后克里希纳你知道他在城里,带着东西去见他们,他们去跳舞,保罗开始在圣诞节跳舞,有时候他们会带着,他举不起来,谁是全能的,他居然举不起来。这是一个甜蜜的剧本,绝对的甜蜜,只有那些圣洁的人和心灵。我指的是心灵,不是一些抽象的目的,真正的心灵,爱的目的在这个意义上是一体,虽然是一体,但又保持各自的身份,否则就没有可能性。
爱的交流必须有两个,查克拉博提·塔克尔说,戈皮们所发明的方法没有更高级的崇拜方式,在他的土地——范德万,特点是怜悯胜于公正,心灵胜于智慧,爱和亲情至高无上。所以,只有通过爱和亲情才能捕获他,任何智力、思维能力、奇迹或瑜伽神通的表现都不会打动他,只有心,爱的力量有时是最大的。
每个发明出来的东西,其实都是在追求一种大家都渴望的东西,那就是爱、甜蜜和情感。这是每个人的目标和追求。
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thankfully krishna's purpose is enjoyment [Laughter] like what everybody wants he's the personification of that but don't tell it I'm reminded of a time when some newspaper reporters they asked srila prabhupada on one of his tours of America what is the purpose of life and being trained by him and acquainted with his General preaching um Style we thought he'll say any one of a number of a few specificanswers like the purpose of life is to develop your love for God or the purpose of life is self-realization or the purpose of life is God realization uh but in this particular time when they said to promote what is the purpose of life promise that enjoyment and everybody all the devotees were a little surprised but all the reports they're just fine oh enjoy Swami sad the purpose of life is enjoyment most devotees were shocked but then there was a dramatic pause and probably said problem is at present we are notenjoying Gourmet said quoting Einstein reality is a thing plus something what its potential it's not just what it appears to be superficially it's in terms of its potential its prospect it's the prospect of its capacity or the capacity of its Prospect Jiva has this reality potential loving units reciprocating love and affection Krishna and Krishna as the ocean so the drop I grow more to say uh soham another Maya body expression he said that's okayhe said what is saw they go drop of the ocean and okay if the drop has certain qualities then shouldn't the ocean have those qualities also as a drop of that ocean we see you have so many qualities you can see hear taste touch smell and feel you can have loving interaction of the ocean of which you are drought has no such capacity impossible only greater magnitude infinitely loving Akila Rasam Rita murti is Krishna like bhakti Rasam Rita Sindhu mahaprabhu Italian Rupa goswami the length and breaths of this oceanisn't immeasurable I Can't Describe everything but I'll take a drop and explain that speaking of my childhood in southern Maryland so we go picking blackberries and the blackberry bushes are low and you have to like get on the ground and crawl and like live if you go inside you'll find the sweetest blackberries that was my experience and my friends and I remember crawling inside one time going for the real sweet ones you know and when I I come face to face with a turtle you know and this turtle's face iscovered with blackberry juice like it's all over them Eli and he's going like this looks at me like he's surprised I'm surprised we're looking at each other I realized we're both searching for the same thing he wants sweetness I want sweetness and we're we're we understand intuitively that sweetness will give us happiness that we both know get the sweetness you get the happiness and one of Philip Ross books uh his his character or the character there is having um almost like a psycho therapeuticsession with a friend and maybe a therapist but at one point he's reflecting on life and the love in his life the passion in his life the arrows and these different things and through the voice of that therap the person says but all all you get in life is a taste you never get a sustained uh of sustainable experience of these things all you ever get is a taste right and it's that and hopes of achieving that taste like dopamine you know chasing after this initial hit of uh uh mundane pleasure that keepspeople motivated to try and again and again try uh to achieve that we're always in search for in uh an infinitely uh rewarding pleasurable experience and what do we find in this world you know a drop a moment I which leaves us unsatisfied because we're hankering for this ever expanding incessantly tasteful experience right so I've mentioned that the like we're we're dealing with competing narratives all right that's what we deal with you're hearing from different sources they're competingnarratives about what is life what is existence what's your purpose what is your prospect what is your potential one narrative says that and and the objective world the universe let's say what is it uh approximately a trillion trillion Stars right so the objective world is virtually infinite unlimited a trillion trillion Stars it's beyond what we can imagine and in this objective world of a trillion trillion Stars there's one planet the Earth that has conscious beings right of which the human beings form the eliteso it means matter is more or less unlimited then Consciousness is a uh a rare substance right it's only found on one planet within the trillion trillion Stars there's Consciousness and then the elite conscious beings are human beings who are composed of arrows and dust and they're searching for pleasure and so and that pleasure which Consciousness and Consciousness enables you to feel pleasure right without Consciousness like anesthetic without Consciousness you don't feel pleasure or pain right so Consciousness enables us tofeel and we're hardwired to search for happiness so in that virtually Unlimited matter World objective world the one planet of the trillion trillion with the conscious Elite human beings if they get lucky on a good day what do they experience a drop of happiness that is a bleak scenario that's not enough to like really get you up in the morning and think today is going to be a lovely day [Laughter] a drop so in this scenario remember we're dealing with competing narratives so this is one narrative rightso the vast infant down to the conscious Elite to the drop of Happiness so happiness or anandam is in the drop position the molecular position Consciousness somewhat greater than that and the the dull inert unthinking unfeeling objective world is the the vast overwhelming substance that's one narrative The Vedic narrative is just the opposite of that fortunately and that's something for us to contemplate happily and and so gurumar says the whole objective world is like an iceberg floating in an ocean of Consciousness itis consciousness which is um and they say um sustaining the objective world the simple example like this table it's hard it's black it has weight height depths Etc all of those are Concepts black is a concept heart is a concept weight is a concept all these dimensions are Concepts a cluster of subject and concept means subjective a cluster of subjective Concepts is an object so the whole objective world is like an iceberg floating in an ocean of Consciousness so in this com pitting narrative the objective world is the drop is thesmall thing Consciousness is a vast substance but what's even greater than that anandam or happiness a they're saying the original source of everything including those flowers those sweet smelling flowers the original source of everything is what is its nature happiness personified ecstasy personified and like uh but um how in an impersonal way lacking form lacking person and they're saying no the central conception of the infinite this I suggest is an alternate unified field Theory Brahma Parma bhagawanthe all-accommodating Brahma all permeating paramatma those are the extremes of the infinite one greater than the greatest smaller than the smallest those are the extremes groomers what is the central conception of the infinite the golden mean of the infinite all attractive Brahman all accommodating paramatma all permeating then and then here's a major leap from Brahman the Parma to bhagavan what all attractive that means beautiful that means personal and say it's like The Theory of Everything Yes Men vegitethe upanishads say try to know the one thing upon knowing which everything is known try to acquire that one thing upon acquiring everything is got samadhi and bhagavad-gita means I think and when you've got that nothing I've got everything there's nothing more than this foreign says the same thing when you when I've got you I've got everything when I heard about you the impression I got the came to my heart you're the most beautiful thing in the worldbeyond the world but like Sundar srin Bethany and she said then I understood why there is hearing I'm no she's getting to the point really this is what it's meant for to hear about you and when through hearing the form the conception of the form of your beauty came to me then I understood why there's such a thing as sight or seeing I like to look at uh etymology of words and just definitions I remind everyone although I'm ostensibly a native English speaker I consult an English dictionary no lessthan 10 times a day looking at words that some I know generally what they mean I'm looking to see am I using them with accurately precisely you know Mark Twain of you know Huckleberry Finn Tom Sawyer fan said the difference between an acceptable word and the precise word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug so it's in our interest whatever our time to look at words and use them precisely so the when it comes to um Aesthetics right and the nearest Russian speaker a stead what is it aesthetico what is itthere you go very almost identical but what it says I mean we say oh that means the beauty or the study of beauty is a culture of beauty yes but the word saying its original meaning was what is perceived by the senses it's means sense perception actually so the case I'm making is that the ultimate goal or object of sense perception is the perception of reality the beautiful of the ultimate Beauty the Ultimate Sound the ultimate taste the old you know the most beautiful sound beautiful taste that's what what Aesthetics is thatculture and that's what she's saying so now I understand it's not just you know in our spare time we're looking for beautiful things right or we'd like to hear beautiful sounds or touch something that is beautiful and soft or taste something that is extraordinary but actually this is what's driving us it's what's driving our existence and Krishna is all of those things that means ocular Rasam Rita murti all of that rolled in the one who's the mo incomparably beautiful the sound of the name is uncomfortablybeautiful the sound of the flute the taste touch form the beauty of the form and then the movement of the form all of these things that's why we have senses of course there's an option you know rain in Hell or serve in heaven the old miltonian satanic option you know but she is saying very beautifully in her uh and this is the opposite of a ransom note normally when there's a kidnapping the kidnappers send a note to something we've got her send us money right now you know by the end of the dayhuh but and this is very beautiful because rukmini is writing the note to Krishna inviting him to kidnap her so she's saying I am inextricably surrounded by karmic circumstances but actually I'm not meant for karma I meant for you come and take what is yours namely me as the government said it's not to judgment everything's meant for Christian you know including us right so she's saying I'm surrounded by these karmic circumstances really I meant for you come and not Rescue Me kidnap me rightit's like being kidnapped by Krishna conception so uh she's saying this is what this is all for this is what aesthetic culture is he said because the Maya bodies deny the personality of godhead that God is a person said they're indirectly giving impetus to mundane eroticism where people are saying that's the only possible plan for expression because they deny the personality of godhead if the personality of God had is reintroduced then redirecting them to seek this type of fulfillment ultimatelyin that direction again I'm speaking highly contextually so even as you know by Quinta Narayan that's not the fully uh inconceivable beautiful no doubt but not the lacking the sweetness of Krishna right you know about like it would seem like if you don't read this properly even like rufa goes for anything like why is Krishna so vastly Superior to you know like well he plays the flute or it says in the book like he has sweet pastimes with his devotees that's not what it says it says he has Madura Russell pastimesI understand why it was like put as sweet but it's saying only the erotic principle only exists in full expression in Krishna Leela if you had to spell it out and Krishna not him by Clinton Orion there is no Eros and vaikunta a procreative but like mundane but not even the Gods are deceived by the human-like parameters of Krishna consumption suppressed Majesty and infinite aspect suppressed the human-like pastimes of KrishnaI'm human-like it it's not that man imagined God In His Image and likeness I wanted to be anthropomorphism but Krishna civilization is the template for human civilization like what does the Bible say made in the image and likeness of God right well not a thousand arms too right two eyes two arms human-like that is the Apache Leela the human-like pastimes of Krishna that the central conception of the infinite is the Supreme personality of godhead who can see hear taste touch smell feel who can look into everybody's eyessimultaneously till that Krishna Central conception of the infant she has ones all accommodating the other one all permeating what's the central one all attractive everyone's being drawn to the center like gravity but what is the gravity Beauty charm sweetness love and affection oh what we're hardwired to seek right search for Sri Krishna reality the Beautiful reality the loving reality the sweet reality the kind Krishna is anandam like sometimes we say Krishna Nanda personified that's who he is that's whathe is that's what he's all about is love affection ecstasy happiness and that's can accommodate everything so the whole objective world is you know the collective cluster of Concepts objectified floating in this ocean of consciousness so here reversal the real tiny thing is this the objective world with all so-called planets you know I mean wow it's so big but we hear it foreign [Music] [Laughter]universe is coming out of his pores hey like golden eggs and then they expand to a billion by a billion whatever metric you want to put in there they're big and before we get into a stereotype about what is large and small and those things because when you're dealing with the infinite prepare you it's not like you oh I get it you have to repeatedly reconceive foreign constantly consistently so we think so the whole objective Rule and then like coming out of the poorism and then very small but then what are wetold um foreign all these universes but in that world those innumerable vikunta planets if you combine the and and we're told you know as the land of icewarjah infinite unlimited opulence combine it all and it's one chintamani Jam Oka we're told and that that realm is like a particle of soil and go look over now but then must be very great what are we told it's 16 crochets that means like 50 kilo squarekilometers see at this point our minds should our brains should explode he said wait there's all these billions of you know trillion trillion stars and they fit inside the poem one Universe fits in the poor and then the whole vikunta fits into one gentam and that realm is 50 square kilometers yeah see it's contradicting I think we have to give up trying to measure with our uh mundane resource like our fi our mind and intellect we're going to measure the infinite so Blake has you risen your reason on you know he's witha compass underwater trying to you know looks like Michelangelo's one of his people you know God with a you know beard that's the sad thing as well really it's like naming your kid hamnet [Laughter] that's God like you can do all these beautiful that's supposed to be the infinitely inconceivably beautiful God is some old fat white guy on a ceiling with a long beard it's pathetic and he is you know Michelangelo you know who's so great in many different ways I mean there's no contest between us I can'teven draw you know a circle which by the way they say is very hard to do so some artists practice that drawing the circle not easy but enough said about that but that idea you see it shows the the who we're praising and there's another pre they're they're wonderful I I appreciate their art don't get me wrong but I'm saying who we praise is like people are just so genius beyond all of that and then they come up with something like that is the oldest person listen to the rest of the lionbut he's also eternally useful so again contradicts The Stereotype the oldest then he has the big long beer I mean really no no eternally useful so this contradiction so when uh it's actually mahaprabhu's example so you know it's good to send out the goswami when they're talking about the opulence sweetness compared to by Quantico he says like when you have a vat of sugar cane juice and then you start cooking it down you can turn it into molasses and you go further what would in India be Goreuh would be what would that be in the wet like like almost like a Taffy like substance gur starts getting more salt and you go further ultimately you achieve like rock candy A Little Rock of candy and then that in other words the idea this huge vat of sweetness has been condensed into this one small thing that's the example he gives to say you take all of vaikunta dwar and all that opulence and and you concentrate it and it becomes not as much as one chintamani gem and goloca but then this is the real point of theword this is remember mahaprabhu like to listen to Krishna Marathon behind closed doors with our ramananda and he said and those chintamani gems of which one possesses more opulence weakness than the combined by Quintas and by the world brother gopis they string them and they're wearing them as anklets on their holy Lotus feet so what is galoka what are the human-like pastimes of Krishna [Music] that's the one thing to understand it's not knowledge but happiness and that means heart love Oscar Wilde joked in one place aboutthe best forms of pleasure are those which do not satisfy because then there's more hankering so what do we find here in mundane pleasure the people become satisfied so to speak and then the reaction appears in the form of suffering whereas in the Spirit we can see in the parallel and the spiritual world is the devotees their eyes are sometimes compared to bees drinking the honey of the lotus face of the Lord and although they may do that incessantly they're not satisfied they have more hankering to see Krishnathey don't say like the Indian man said to me I told prabhupada when he asked about my Indian preaching and the Indian man said we'd come in and say oh I know what is Krishna you know and probably said that is their disease so when we talk about the you know young sundaram achintia Guna swarup so saying the shamasunder form of Krishna what is it an achintia gunas group The the qualities of that form are inconceivable I mean she's inconceivably beautiful not just think of the most beautiful person we've seen here and multiply that ahundred times a thousand times not even close is saying you can never be satisfied by any amount of seeing Krishna it's not possible why because the end result of that will be you just want more there's not anything like oh and that was a pretty good amount of Krishna I think I'm happy with that I'll be back next week well I think that's good for this lifetime and you know ah no she's saying you'll never be satisfied by seeing Krishna smelling Krishna all the different sensual activities that are possible you'llnever reach a satiation point you'll always be left in the position of hankering for more so we're told as Bill Mongol gives in his name how sweet sweet sweet is Krishna so Krishna looks very beautiful and sweet he's saying but when you look at him he looks so beautiful and see but if you look at his face somehow even more sweet same but if there's a smile on that face the smile is even sweeter than the sweetness of the face sweet sweet sweet but that Krishna so when the gopis see the sweet smile ofkrishna's face they who are inconceivably beautiful they become more beautiful Krishna seeing their increased Beauty his Beauty increases and this way there's a competition of beauty so it leaves the realm of what is conceivable by us and our present position James Joyce have this short story we call a portrait of an artist something like that and these two college students are discussing Aesthetics right I mean you know the culture of beauty and poetic Beauty and art liter and and one makes the casein saying because they're talking aboutarrows as well and he's saying if something is truly aesthetic Beauty there should be no mundane reaction remember purik admiraj is uh been cursed to die in seven days and he's fasting from liquids and solid food total fast but he is saying in this verse that he's not thirsty or hungry and he's saying in fact the only thing that uh the the he's lost his thirst for the mundane there's no mundane hunger there's no mundane thirst literally or metaphorically not thirsting for mundane substance ofany sort subtle or gross saying on account of what drinking the medicine for the suffering of material existence which is hearing about krsna's pastimes particularly as Palestines with srimati radharani and Raja gopis so he's saying I'm not thirsty I'm not in fact I feel like I'm just drinking nectar and gomar's explanation of them nutsell sloka mucha ramanticha since this discussion about Krishna how uh fulfilling is it to Shanti he says like eatingthe same way people feel relish and satisfaction in eating it's not just the metaphor here totally nourishing fulfilling as intense as the enjoyment of eating can be that's how intense their nourishing one another hearing and talking about Krishna that's tushanti but ramanti cha is a reference to erotic pleasure that the intensity of erotic pleasure they're having this experience by talking about Krishna so really the devotees are they're the pleasure seekers the thing no they're the people give upall the pleasures of the world and then must be a sad life no happiness there they've given up everything counting their beads not like that was jamuna charges said since I've been experiencing talking about Krishna he said if I recall as the mind is up to reflect on things and if I recall some past like sexual thing he said like it's distasteful to methat I once thought that was pleasure that's what he's saying we don't say that we're like that but the jamuna charges like that is enough to know to give us a hint that don't don't think all these stereotypes people have about people in spiritual life do not make the mistake of imposing them upon the higher devotees they're enjoying like anything they're relishing they're not uh it's not a life of privation they're just haven't had any enjoyment it's not like they're enjoying likeanything that beyond what we can properly conceived and those two things the type of enjoyment you get eating that type of relish and nourishment and fulfillment and ramante Krishna Consciousness is not about sensory deprivation right the monks and what do they call it cells right they call it a cell the room for the monks cell and then the gruel you know gruel means like the worst kind of imaginable food pushed under you know the little slot and the door and he's in there you know flagellant you know like you knowbecause I'm so sinful so in other words so that this type of austerity and the mode of ignorance or passion is going to elevate you to some higher position now the reason the great devotees like Das goswami and others have are taking so little of this world is because they're full on nectarine substance they're only taking enough to keep their body going so he's drinking the buttermilk right but they're feasting you know when it does that uh you know that uh the form of krishnaangout that'ssomething is a festival of um every every aspect of krsna's divine form is like a festival of Cupid so we can't think that whatever we have uh or we should avoid saying that that as far as we've conceived Krishna consciousness we're trying and we are trying to convince others uh to consider that you could say but we shouldn't deceive deceive ourselves in the thinking again that we've fully conceived Krishna or that the higher devotees what they conceive or perceive as marginally better thanwhere we are at present it's actually offensive to think like that it's when it's not hyperbole when they talk about you know the bhakti Rasam Rita Sindhu and ocean of nectarian rasa and what is Rupa goswami say and say what the devotees are like not just like Pearl divers I saw that in Hawaii and uh they have this volcanic craters you can swim in and some people they you know snorkeling you put on a mask with and then according to the uh capacity of the diver somebody can go down they you know and then they comeback up he doesn't say compare them to that he said they're like aquatic animals that can that live like in the bottom of the ocean that deep right and so if if the surface or you could say we weave uh uh maybe touch the surface if you want to be generous and that has astonished us then what to speak of those he said like they're diving deep into this ocean of bhakti rasa Rupa goswami gives this verse in the beginning of the bhakira samri to send you because he's trying to help us understand what is krishna-bhaktirasaand this if if we start connotating in a more refined way taking that dive deeper into reality uh directive then that spirit and and refining what is meant by unlimited spiritual pleasure goswami says here by quoting this verse brahmananda that's his advertisement in the beginning of the book they're saying if you have some idea of what mundane pleasure is and then above that this spiritual pleasure of the yogis the brahmanandis the spiritual adapting multiply that a trillion times it's not equal to an atomic fraction of thepleasure derived from krishna-bhakti rasa let's say that's the advertisement that should at least pick the imagination and say like is that true you know is there some way to have a GL I mean a glimpse of that it's possibility therefore the the culture of Faith under the influence of revealed truth the spiritual directives they're pointing go go in this direction himself giving himself and as an example so out of necessity for for broadcasting the bhagavatam he is in the position of what we would saylike abramovadi right his uh and that's necessary because they're holding the respect of people in society and it's going to be very critical at this point this is the position he occupies and it's very important because like uh that sort of person right rufa goes down he says brahmanando bavade Asia guni bhakti Paramount the brahmanandas they're experiencing this is just by um Brahman realization experiencing happiness that makes erotic pleasure uh uh appalling to them right so they're certified as having nomundane sexual interest that's why sukadev's the the loudspeaker for that and he's saying what by hearing I came to see by hearing I came to conceive properly and what is that uttama when I heard from my father Veda Vias these pastimes of Radha and Krishna and the brother gopis he's saying I didn't know this was a possibility previously right and uh the the reason he's he he's the man who can certify that the palestimes are not mundane because he's not only did he cross over that sort ofmundane interest he was never interested in it from birth inside the womb of his mother so that person how why is he so interested in this why did this capture him if it doesn't have a spiritual quality Guru must say they would say why is mahaprabhu who's an impeccable from an external point of view an impeccable sannyasi why is he so obsessed with the pastimes of radhan Krishna and the brother gopis unless they're not mundane if they were mundane he would have no interest in that yet he's utterlytotally obsessed with these pastimes so it implies that they're of a different quality this is important India at the same time we're saying the name form qualities pastimes of Krishna are beyond the grasp of the mind and intellect the senses beyond what can be seen heard Taste of touch smell Etc we're conceived of in the mind they're intellectually so then what are we doing what what is the Krishna conscious project we're always we just said the whole talk up to this point was about this possibility now we're saying it's notpossible with your senses your mind and your intellect well what's okay Dave said yeah Beyond this realm what I saw was not a mundane form a mundane person mundane relationship that's why every part of the bhagavatam is significant he was certified earlier remember his 16 year old boy naked wandering then he goes past a a Pond where women are bathing naked how would the average modern 16 year old boy respond to that let's not go there all right so okay Dave goes they saw nothing not even Trace elements of exploiting tendency inhis vision this is significant so he's already been certified he has no interest and mundane female form or mundane sexuality then what does he hear about the erotic pastimes of Krishna and the prajagopis and that captures him wholesale so then what does it tell us there's erotic potential in unalloid devotion Madan Mohan Freud Eros is driving the world the erotic principle is driving making the planet spin and Madan Cupid so someone again Madan Mohan who can we're all bewildered by Cupid Krishna is so beautiful Cupid becomesbewildered and also it means that the bewildering influence of Cupid can be uh broken by becoming redirected towards Madan Mohan Krishna Krishna with erotic potential that's what it means right so it's very visual Very sensual right the spiritual project but requires a deeper level of seeing acquiring the proper angle of vision so the complexity of the language of saraswatitakur is to um save us from imposing lower uh misconceivedpolluted concepts of Eros upon the Supreme entity and his loving Associates the which is the ultimate disaster calm lust is like dense Darkness and praying pure sunshine dense light North Pole South Pole remember I said they're very similar but North Pole South Pole Worlds Apart means self-satisfaction self-centeredness uh egocentricity trying to please the senses of Krishnaframe sorrow pancharatra put on what is pure devotion is what's pleasing the Krishna the heart through the medium of the body mind and telling is is expressing it's innate hankering for such things it points to the actual nature of the Soul as a seeing feeling tasting smelling Bean all right and all those things they're not just meant for temporal gratification but they're constants we're constantly seeking out sources ofsense experience it's natural but become artificial in that in one place probably describes it as our uh natural love of Krishna is perverted as a lust for matter you can get excited like people do when they say some movie star or famous person like they have an awards show and then they show then come some famous actor or lady and then the people watching or their their they get a thrill by seeing them and the person's interviewing or talking to them and and let's say it's live so it's it's a realthrill but it's unknown to that actor they know all right ostensibly millions of people are watching but just to make a point they're not reciprocating you know I mean I suppose you could try and make a case for that on some level but not not in a conscious way but Krishna as the absolute if by seeing and whatever the medium is the heart of some devotee becomes excited and by the I mean in a truly devotional sense then Krishna can reciprocate that more no less than srimatirata running herself this expressionand what is it telling us that who is capable of satisfying every atom of every limb of every aspect of our existence and reciprocating the hankering of every atom of every soul they're hankering for seeing tasting touching smelling feeling loving who can reciprocate that necessarily the absolute because we're thinking well I'll find one person is there one person in this world presently of 8 billion who can do that for me good luck with that program foreign as I mentioned you know all of the social mediawhat was the original intention and still the intention to bring people together right so that people and they think with all this data it should be easier than ever to find your soul mate just you know type it in check off a few boxes then the robots search all the data of all the people maybe I'm not revealing enough data I'll reveal more and more and more about myself people who like this person also like this person [Laughter] not available right now but people who really want to also like this person[Laughter] I think with all it should be easier than ever we have so much data on everybody so it should just you know soul mate press a button it should be that simple but yeah it is not that simple because we are answering ideal search criteria and ideal really is synonymous with the absolute only the absolute is capable of the type of hankering that we foreign but we as prabhupada would say we haven't been properly educated about the personality of godhead we're still saying God is something extra abstractremote not tangible not something you could like Wrap Your Arms Around right so there has to be a process by which one can gradually reconceive the absolute along personal lines that's the project of the Krishna Consciousness movement is to be bring people in connection establish a loving relationship with these Supreme personality of godhead otherwise known as Krishna really love means Krishna Prem and that's what the heart is capable of and that's why it will be disappointed with all other substitutesfor that inevitably invariably inevitably disappointed and it can only be released in this way and she herself is saying hearing about Krishna a drop of that substance is what will release this flood from the heart and that is the this world of duality and everything that goes with heat cold happiness distress Etc that'll all finish and she also sells in the end and what for some for all like Prophet said in his postcard to Growers you know I'm totally disgusted with human civilization the animals look more friendly to me andso achieving this position where your material life is ruined you see and then what happens they just wander about like the birds who you know they we say they come they take a little something and then they go they have no fixed residence but those birds that means hunza he's saying the end result is you become a Parma hangzha and what are we told is there specific quality or capability in the midst of what is apparently mundane they can extract spiritual substance from there and that's back to the situation thatwe're in how to read that how they can extract the spiritual substance from any apparently karmic circumstance say oh the friendly hand of Krishna is there in the background this is good it's destroying my ambition for the material world it's convincing me the what it probably say according to talk or it's not a place for gentlemen and so many other things that's what I mean you'll be ruined your your little fantasy about realizing your prospect in this world will be ruined and of course being in the neophyposition where this is like makes us nervous or a cause for alarm because our faith is not so developed but the higher devotees as we hear in country she's praying for that saying having um being affluent foreign when janma good births Iceberg opulence wealth shruta here means Highly Educated SRI uh well physical Beauty so these are impedimentsjust taking Shelter View because it makes us think we have some Prospect in this world whereas your so it's difficult for such people but Thomas but the attention those who have no material assets or have exhausted them proud said you are easily approached by the materially exhausted everyone sees so many things every day what do they remind you of right we all have our own experience we're seeing so many things in life every single day what do they remind you of that's what it's all about is everyoneseeing the same thing now it's all even because of the internet now everybody knows what everybody else knows there's nothing nobody knows that everyone else doesn't know nothing really or that you can't find and you know 0.000 seconds hi so it's just a question of how we shall interpret it shall we interpret it in terms of viewing measuring it against what the heart is seeking what the Mind seeks what the senses are seeking how what will be the criteria for measurements and establishing valueor worthlessness favorable unfavorable desirable undesirable how shall we see or interpret we say the ocean of material existence right right that means the ocean of Carnival um has becomes reduced to the water left in the imprint of the hoof of a calf so think about this how can what you see there's an ocean and now an ocean is reduced to a drop that means a change of perspective a new way of seeing so what was Oceanic and insurmountable is now become a drop now we're going in the other direction and but vishna chakraborty Tabor saidsomething very interesting says that um generally it's good for the devotees to have a healthy fear of material existence no one should think like they're safe no one should say I challenge Maya can see you know dot dot dot yes she can you know don't challenge Maya not a good uh strategy and sometimes gurudev even like placating ma Kali and you know like realizing you know this is her Zone her region stay on her good side you know but so in a healthy fear of the mundane that kind of keeps the devoteesum true and focused and uh sheltered he said but another I mean vishwanath is known for his interpretive abilities he's saying but this what another way of looking at this verse saying the ocean is reduced to the water in the hoof print of economy thing actually we worship the cows Govinda Krishna and and what does bathed them that Abhishek that he's saying actually these things can be seen as advantageous from the devotees and we're back to interpreting adversity as good for Spiritual culture it's forcing us totake a deeper shelter uh to dive deep into reality um as opposed to being outer directed we hear about The Vedic science of auspicious and inauspicious uh science like if you're going traveling if someone goes by carrying empty buckets inauspicious if those buckets are full of something auspicious but what's interesting Chaco bharti takor will say this science we can trace this science back to srimati radharani herself but she observes all these different signs as indicative of whether or not meeting is it's favorable to meet with Krishnathat's the value of these science in our position Direct contact with Krishna yields little substance in the case of actual exalted devotees the most indirect contact yields the highest substance so if srimati radharani sees a tree a Tamal tree maybe a very deep Krishna connection I mean the 10th chapter of the bhagavatam maybe the 90th chapter when it deals with a separation slokas of the mahishida and the queens of dwaraka which are astonishing the way they're there and their Madnessof Separation their talking to birds and inanimate things the what is this one bird curity they have a particular uh wailing call and they're the Queens who are Sleepless from separation prisoners say oh are you like us you know that's why you're up because you've been separated from your lord whatever they're feeling in their hearts is projected into that environment it's a reflection everything becomes a reflection of the heart this is a transcendental science how to interpret the world everything isa reflection of the inner quality of heart when one device went to the mod Nas groomers now that I'm here what should be my Seva my service and I said oh when you're visiting month you know you help out with the cleaning or the cooking or this and it's not they're going to say something like that and groomer said your service he said to acquire the proper angle of vision that's your service to acquire the proper angle of vision the proper way of seeing things it's not you're going to see twodifferent sets of things well internally that's another thing the higher devotees real-time live stream Lila but I mean in terms of how we view the world and transactions with the world will all be seen differently saying you need to acquire the proper angle of vision how to see everything and that will lead to the Awakening of of internal Through The Eyes of the scriptures on [Music] means seeing through hearing this will help one acquire the proper angle of vision Guru Maharaj will say when it comes to interpretation or howwe see anything it depends on where we take our stand so if we take a stand in the niraguna plane which is where sukadev begins from then we'll see things from a certain perspective and there's great Ace in and everywhere and everything so we go deep into the niraguna plane that means yeah the objective World subjective world super subjective world and these super super subjective World means go Loca the Opera tele of Krishna where everything is perfect and will be interpreted in terms of the absolutely a highest interest of theSupreme absolute this gormore said how to show Sue ball and and sriram ready to fulfill the inner desires of Krishna there's that plane then here in this world basically we're operating in terms of what the intermediate position distinguishing well this is good that's not good this is desirable that's undesirable some discrimination is being applied but from a higher perspective everything's moving perfectly according to the uh sweet will or the will of the sweet absolute we have to prepare to surrenderourselves to a Whimsical Lord in this world we don't want to be subject to someone's whims but when you're dealing with the absolute why the hesitation is the absolute ultimate and absolute good his whims are for the Eternal benefit of everyone and everything if you use Krishna conception for some other purpose then it's not Krishna proper it's in the name of Krishna and looking like Krishna but it's not krsna proper but when you come in connection with Krishna proper you won't try to use him for yourlower purpose you'll offer yourself to him for his higher purpose that's Krishna conception that's why there has to be the concept of the servitor and the servant and service otherwise oh I like Krishna I like God I like this I thought as long as he's fulfilling your lower purpose whereas we as I heard groomers say today we're meant to be exploited by him he's not afraid to use that language however Politically Incorrect it might sound we're trying to understand the substance of a thingto be exploited by the absolute good is a good thing autocrat he exists by himself and for himself to fulfill his own purpose we're afraid we're suspicious but what do you think the purpose of the absolute good is then we need to understand who is he what is he rasaraj hey his ecstasy personified what is that one today or beyond the light is the beautiful form of shama Sundar Krishna his ecstasy personified Beauty personified sweetness personified love and affection personified so when the people said oh God yourmother preaching slavery all this dasada son who does servant of the servant of the servant and humanism we say you're number one you're the man and the Maya Buddies say so hum that great ultimate I'm that don't you know who I am Gorman said ironically though they why do they respect the guru if you're that why so much respect for Guru they don't want to cross over that they don't want to disres you should be equal so if you're the ultimate thing then what is the guru higher or lower thannot but you know Gopi bar to come alive servant of the servant of the servant sometimes Guru must say you were the slave and not even directly the slave but slave of the slave he preferred the word slave it's like pushing the humanistic button in all of us and so they said go to your mother they're preaching slavery Sarasota said no Goliath stands for the Dignity of the human race to be the slave of Krishna the servant of Krishna that is not a low thing that's the ultimate achievement krsna tells Arjun and bhagavad-gitanimited you can be an instrument to my Divine will but there's being you know a happy instrument to Divine will or reluctant but we should resist the sort of thinking it's being imposed forced upon you because otherwise why are they having a discussion if Arjun doesn't have Choice what's why is there a bhagavad-gita why all the talk and all the different things discussed and considered if there's no choice involved so it comes to the question of free will this dichotomy the two choices I said there's competing narratives one isfreedom for the senses right that's so-called western civilization and remember what it when they asked Gandhi what do you think about Western Civilization he said I think it would be a good idea [Laughter] so freedom for the senses that's Western Civilization Eastern civilization freedom from the Census we are all slaves of our senses so this whole hoax about how free we are and we're more educated and free thinking than anyone before us you know what I'm saying yeah I'll get to you in a minutehold on yeah and we're just so free and you know okay and and have control of Our Own uh Minds right we're slaves already we were slaves before we're slaves still it's that's the position in the world to be a slave to the senses so to realize the Soul Plane and government when you're situated there then this loses its hold upon you and as we indicated earlier because Christian is called Rishi case and Govinda because then he was saying like oh so all this desire that we you know we'reit's like our we're hardwired then it just has to be stopped given up suppressed uh deprived starved you know and and then and you'll be free from that and I guess that's supposed to be a happy position to be on all right that's not krsna Consciousness I need to say we're the um for those who were not satisfied with the for the pittance of what's offered in terms of sense gratification we're uh interested in something more than that so it's not that we're sense deniers butwe're sense affirmative but saying not uh that as spiritual subjects we shouldn't be outer directed toward in that sequence objects of the senses senses mind Etc you see sense objects are in the lowest position so why should the chit subject how can it find happiness in the acquiring controlling and consumption of things that are lower than it so to reconfigure ourselves as dedicating units and then find that you can have the full spectral reins of sensual possibility and dedicating devoting yourself to that Which is higher thanyou that's the prospect foreign Divine will just say sweet pastimes of radhan Krishna and brother gopis that hearing about this from krsna loving qualified people will actually cure the heart of lust of the desire of the unfulfilled desires that we're we're trying to cleanse and the objective World Creed Rogan it's identified heart disease it's a heart-to-heart transaction but at present the heart is knotted it's uh lust desire has a Stranglehold on the heartso it's not truly expressing itself with the book called The Deep heart score is not being expressed so the bhagavatam says money hearing about Krishna the knots the Stranglehold the lust has an heart will be released then the real heart flow will come so he introduced the concept of self-disipation says when you take make Sandow with Pope you have a grinding stone a sound that would stick you pour rose water on the stone take the sound that would stick and start rubbing it into the stone and what happens is gradually the sandalwoodstick is dissipating right that position is finished but what's happening is this pulp this divinely fragrant substance is being generated as a consequence of the self-disipation that's what Krishna Consciousness is meant to be that we uh engage ourselves all of our energy and serving capacity right going against the current of exploitation and a dedicating current and the through self-disipation we're gradually converted into a Divine physician so the karmic generating form vanishes and the golden serving self begins to express andmanifest itself but we'll say when Amar okay then praying and what precedes that again means an Unknowing connection with the niraguna plane this goromar is told when a man is lying unconscious we see in the modern world the paramedics come and they inject him with something to bring him the Consciousness and they'll say can you hear me if you can hear me move your finger or move your arm give some indication you can hear me then when they do that then now they're Gata awakened they can begin to cooperate for theirown betterment got the sukriti leads to it then destroy what is minimally you hear about Krishna Consciousness and think it's possible I can understand everything they're saying but there's something there that sounds possible that affirmative affirmation just a positive heart expression toward what has been heard shradha and belief and more cultured way that if I just pursue this right yes et cetera inquire about that one thing knowing which everything is known try for that one thing having obtained everything is Godin the samadhi chapter in bhagavad-gita when you're what is it really when your connection with us see it's consistent to copyright explanation coming in connection with us you think you've got everything rukmini again in the bhagavatam rupam now I think I've got everything it's a consistent thread throughout that's faith believe yes I'll just give all give myself the Krishna he'll protect me maintain me have to have some belief and that possibility leads one to the association of devoteesproper and then the most Superior devotee to put ourselves under their guidance and adopt their practices then misconception is gradually being converted into proper conception an unwanted I say [Music] misbehaviors being converted into proper behavior then Ruchi some taste and Growers saying what what is it a taste for what in the beginning was being painfully executed means to voluntarily inconvenience yourself for the sake of spiritual realization but now some taste has come for thosevery things that someone was performing previously out of a sense of following the order of the guru or obligation spiritual obligations now they have a taste they like hearing about Krishna they like hearing about mahaprabhu Ruchi then ashakti how much do they like it you can't take it away from them now they're attached to it the way that someone becomes attached to anything they're attached now to this said then stop hearing the bhagavatam the person no I don't want to do that he said oh thenyou do have some appreciation a Shakti then Bob what does that mean here this Bob that the seed the bugs he let the bees sprouted it blossomed now it's produced a flower that flower has a fragrance it means the devotion of that particular servitor has a fragrance that Krishna finds as Charming as a sweet smelling flower he wants to inhale that more and more it's giving some joy to Krishna the sort of devotional sentiments that are manifesting in their hearts and when that intensifies then expresses as prayinguh anurag mahabhava but still this is so valuable and say well what if someone they only had a brush with this for a brief time still it's the best thing I remember one since Philo Providence Garden in Los Angeles he was giving the sequence and talking about that and telling each stage but when he got to Bob and then when he came to like praying he said then enjoyment [Music] [Laughter] but groomers again would say but what is that enjoyment done they call it compound interest only a capitalist can understand usthey create invest their Capital then the interest comes what do you do with the entrance people go well go buy something spend it not a real capitalist real capitalist no I got some interest increase the capital now the capital is greater more interest will come increase the capital Gourmet said the devotees they're like that they're serving then when that time comes increase the serving capital more interest increase the serving capital so real praying is real enjoyment is Seva Yes means he's owning the ultimate enjoyerof everything including ourselves not that you just give something I'll give a donation here's the flower that's good but what he wants you to self-offering to offer oneself and not to the point of self-annihilation here we should make a distinction between self-oblivion and self-annihilation because sometimes well aren't they the same though they're not the same self-annilishment extinguishing the self that's not what surrender is about all right self-oblivion means you're so lost inanother you've lost yourself in another but you've retained your identity just like in this world what is the kind of love romantic love that people are searching for they want to be totally lost and and lose themselves and another person well retaining their identity right that's what self-oblivion is to become so Holy One with another person one and will in spirit and hearts while retaining ones identity that's a beautiful thing that's love that's actually what everyone is hankering forand they're not certain they're not searching for someone to you know obtain control acquire control and consume to achieve happiness or self-fulfillment or satisfaction but really candidly truly in the core of our hearts we're searching for someone to who's worthy of offering yourself to raghupati thanks [Music] others are searching for the param Brahma and the shrutis and the Vedas bhutani Etc yes they want the param Brahma from whicheverything came by which it's maintained and to which it will ultimately enter same thing in the smriti and the Mahabharata everywhere even in Gita is saying but what I want to know Brahma what is do that like a play thing the Lord is a toddler is crawling in his Courtyard who can be trusted with that and pericardmars take a step saying nandakim akarode Brahman Shreya Eva mahodyon yes Courtyard but you showed us God Krishna on her lap and he's sucking her breast milk what did they do what it means what do they do theyrepresent raghavakti spontaneous love and affection from the heart that's not obstructed by anything nothing can extract obstruct that sort of love and devotion and do they annihilate their personalities no but they are experiencing a sweet type of Oblivion holy lost and love for Krishna Holy One and purpose only they can be trusted with to have the absolute the Ultimate Reality as a play thing those brother gopis and vrindavan when they tell like uh bring that to me then Krishna you know he's in town takesup brings it to them and they go dance go Paul dance down Christmas starts dancing then sometimes they bring that he's he can't lift it who is omnipotent he can't live something this is a sweet the play The Sweet absolute only those who are Holy One and purpose and hearts by that I mean hearts right not some abstract purpose think hearts love the purpose of love is in this sense Oneness there one yet retain their identity otherwise there's no possibility of loving exchange there has to be two chakraborty takor is saying the methodinvented by the bridge of gopis there's not no Superior way to Worship the Lord foreign [Music] and his land vrindavan what is it characterized Mercy over Justice heart over intellect where love an affection Reigns Supreme so he can only be captured by love and affection it's not impressed with any display of intellect mental prowess um Miracles yogic siddhis any such thing but heart the power of love and affectionsometimes Growers says the greatest thing ever invented aspired to what is admittedly driving everyone in this world searching for love sweetness affection it's the goal the target of everyone