📺视频-Experience I • Who Am I?
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通过克里希纳意识，拥抱变化和自我发现，超越肤浅的身份以获得更深刻的理解。
亮点
- 🌱 转变：要提升自我，必须进行转变。
- 💖 “给予心灵，接受心灵”：这句话捕捉了克里希纳意识的本质。
- 💻 解读的重要性：强调解读者的重要性，而不仅仅是数据。
- 🔍 自我理解：理解自我是自我实现和解放的关键。
- 🧘♂️ 超越表面标签：真实的身份超越肤浅的标签和社会构造。
- 💭 解放：解放不在于纵欲，而在于自我发现。
- 🌌 灵魂的光辉：灵魂的光辉被身份和自我的层次遮蔽。
关键见解
- 🌿 转变是必要的：要在精神上成长，必须放弃当前的自我。这一过程可能会很痛苦，但会导致更高的存在状态。
- ❤️ 人际关系的互惠： “给予心灵，接受心灵” 强调了精神实践中关系的互惠性质，促进了更深的联系。
- 🖥️ 信息的解读：人类经验的价值在于感情的传达，而不仅仅是数据本身。机器缺乏真正的理解。
- 🧠 超越标签的身份：许多人根据社会角色或欲望误解自己的身份，忽视了自我的深层本质。
- 🌊 自我的流动性：像水一样，真实的身份是动态的，不能被暂时的状态或经历所限制。
- 🔓 真实的解放：自由不仅仅是纵欲；而是朝向理解自我和目的的旅程。
- 🌒 灵魂的内在光辉：灵魂的本质常被自我和身份的层次遮蔽，精神实践有助于揭示这种真实的光辉。
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你不能一直保持中立的态度，这是原则。想要更进一步，就得放下现在的自己，经历这个痛苦的过程才能结束。你会发现自己进入了另一个境界。可是，师父马哈拉杰一直在说，越是放下，越是活得精彩。德国人说，付出真心就会收获真心，这就是克里希纳意识最美妙的地方，不要期待别的，真心相待，深入去感受，深入去感受。师父马哈拉杰是怎么说要深入的呢？
深入现实，西奥多·罗扎克写过一本书叫《信息的邪教》，书中有个例子他说，一个人在用电脑，他提到自己桌子旁有个文件柜，里面装满了信息或者数据，那这是否意味着这些信息就比我重要呢？我这里有个盒子，或者还有老旧的电话簿，我并不知道电话簿里的所有名字。那么，重要的是解读者和感受者。
一台机器可以像发邮件一样把信息传给另一台机器。你知道吗，最近我听说有人去世了，有人从某个地方发来消息说某人去世了。机器甚至可以自动建议一些悼念的话，但这些建议最初都是来自有感情的人。所以那些电脑对发送的消息其实是没有任何感情的。
虽然这句话有点偏，但对发给我的那个人来说是有意义的，他们充满了情感，而这些其实是次要的，真正重要的是他们的感受。可能还有拼写错误或者其他问题，但即使这样，我也能理解他们的感受。我们知道在梵语中，"atma" 这个词可以和灵魂或自我同义，而我们被告知自我有很多不同的概念，比如身体的自我和心理的自我。
在《博伽梵歌》第二章的开头，克里希那讨论了灵魂的知识，谈到了自我概念和知识层面的自我概念。他举了许多我们日常经验中的例子，把这些和身份联系起来。但我们知道，有时候你可能会误解自己的身份，或者正确理解它。我认为，自我实现和自我觉醒就是正确理解自己的身份，从而实现自我决定。我觉得这个话题挺有意思的。
你可以提出一些非常复杂的论点或描述，克里希纳肯定可以做到。他是全知全能的神格，完全可以给出我们想象不到的关于灵魂存在的最复杂的论证。所以我们回到这个无限的视角和有限的视角。对有限的我们来说，采用无限的视角是有好处的。我们无法想象这样做会如何提升我们的境况，我们可能会想，我想知道我到底想要什么。
应该做什么，我是谁，或者我的目的是什么，这些问题都很好，但它们建立在对自我的误解和偏见上。人们认为他们生活中最重要的事情就是他们的性取向，这就是他们的身份，他们需要表达自己的性取向，才能获得自由和解放，过上自由幸福的生活，通过认同某种特定的性取向。我不是在胡说，他们认为这就是自由，自由去。
我想说的是，我现在认同这种性偏好，觉得自己是个自由的灵魂，想让别人只从我的性取向来看我。那么我们就得思考什么是自由，什么是解放。是感官的自由，还是逃离阳光的自由？大多数人会认为这意味着感官的自由，可以随心所欲，对吧？所以我们是否可以说，有些人在影响下，按照经文中的说法，比如“空腹、舌头和生殖器”，他们其实是在进行自我表达呢？
[音乐] 这真的是一种解放的状态，舌头想要去享受这个，所以我让舌头带着我走向那个方向，这就是自由，我在表达我自己。巴克提维诺达·塔库尔在斋浦尔的教义中说，当水在冰冻状态下时，你可以识别出很多特征和属性，但那并不是它的正常状态，它的正常状态是液态的水。所以如果我们分析自我，任何自我在冰冻状态下的情况，就在这个暂时的现实中。
不是永久的现实，而是暂时的现实。我们可以进行很多观察。我们穿的衣服是否定义了我们？穿着在某种程度上确实是这样，对吧？可以说，穿着确实会定义一个人，但这难道应该是定义一个人的唯一标准吗？如果说仅仅通过穿着来定义，那就太荒谬了。所以如果我们把重点放在衣服上，实际上我们被告知身体是业力的外衣，难道这就应该成为定义一个人的方式吗？
好吧，不，我们不能否认有人是人，有人是狗，还有人是树，对吧？所以我们要对当下的因果负责。但是如果我们只把自己定义成这些，那就像是只把自己定义成穿的衣服一样，为什么要这么做呢？这些都是考虑的因素。当克里希纳给出一个例子时，我觉得这个例子非常好，你可以举很多例子，但想想看，如果他给了一个特定的例子。
他肯定对这件事情有一些概念，比如它是如何落地的或者被接受的。我们看到，尽管关于克里希纳有很多深奥几乎无法理解的哲学著作，甚至是克里希纳最遥远的方面，但当他自己举例时，都是非常简单的，任何人都能理解，实际上，连孩子都能懂。所以当他说“你是灵魂”的时候，意思是意识的细胞处于胚胎的身体里，然后是在婴儿、幼儿、孩子和青少年的身体里。
一个年轻人，成年后再到中年，最后是老年，但有一个恒定的身份始终存在，那就是怀疑者或信仰者。信仰者或怀疑者能够承受这些身体上的变化，保持一个特定的身份。这就是他想表达的观点，并不是否定成长或发展，但核心身份从胚胎阶段到婴儿、幼儿、儿童、青少年、成年，再到老年始终保持不变。这是你内心深处的一部分。
体验所谓的身体变化，如果你不这样说，那就会是超出你体验的东西，但这正是我们正在经历的。如果我们对自己做个时间推移的记录，你知道，有时候会这样做，有些人每年在同一天拍一张照片，网上有很多这样的例子，然后你会看到这个人慢慢成长和发展，但他们还是同一个人，核心身份没有变。这就是他举的例子。
他补充了一些我们可能觉得超出我们经验的东西，他说在临死的时候你会经历另一个转变，这将取决于“yum yum”。有趣的是，他用“bav”这个词。你可以说是意识，但更确切地说是你的心，正如诗人所说的那样，是内心深处的核心。我们说的意识就是内心深处的核心，因为我们并不是在谈论身体的心脏，这决定了所生成的身体。
身体是灵魂错觉的生物表达，真正的你被层层的偏见、虚假的自我和业力装扮掩盖着。当你把所有的面具都摘掉，就像希腊剧院那样，知道吗？他们称之为“面具”，有快乐的面具、悲伤的面具，有时候这些面具作为戏剧表演的象征出现。那么，我在面具之下的真实身份是什么呢？是那些通过业力获得的面具。
在我现在的生命形态中，偏见就像是穿着业力的外衣。如果你是从外部来看自己，关注性别、国籍、年龄这些东西，那你就没能真正看到自己是谁，以及你的潜力是什么。你怎么能进一步了解自己呢？梵文中的“sangskar”有一个意思是“印象”。所以，经历了无数生命形态的jaladan和alakkan，就像是不断地在进化和轮回，很多印象都在不断涌现。
心理印象正在被收集、获取，并影响灵魂对自我的理解。我是什么？我是谁？我的目的是什么？所以这些人总是想着自我表达，觉得我只需要做我自己。没错，你应该做你自己，但首先得搞清楚你是谁。自我、智力、心智和感官只是原始自我的影子，就像我们在这个世界上看到的那样，影子是基于真实事物的。所以他在说的就是这个。
意识主体无法直接体验平凡的事物，那么它该怎么做呢？必须要有一个灵魂或意识自我的影像，而这个影像可以在阴影世界中运作。否则，意识就无法与无意识的领域进行交流。因此，古鲁马哈拉吉提出了“影子自我”（chayabas chitibas）的概念，包括影子自我、影子自我意识、影子智慧、影子思维、影子身体和影子感官。这是一个在阴影世界中运作的影子自我。
关于影像般存在的观察有很多，但如果我们想深入核心问题，真正触及内心深处，就得解开所有来自偏见的层层包裹，才能窥见真实的自我。因此，我们试图受到揭示真理的影响。我们说，在《博伽梵歌》中，克里希纳说，物体之上是感官，而感官之上是更高层次的，它们更精 refined、更优越。但在感官之上的是心智，心智高于感官。
他说这是感官体验的根源，然后他说比心智更细腻的是智慧。当你说好吧，我明白了，智慧是区分的因素，因为心智没有区分的能力。所以我们被告知需要用法来充实智慧。回到圣徒、经典和大乘佛教，比智慧更细腻的是什么？他说那是灵魂的起点，就是自我的所在。云层遮住了月亮，但月亮照亮了云层，所以你看到的只是这些。
云彩在这里，但没有月光的照耀你什么也看不见，所以别以为那朦胧的云就是实在的东西，真正的月亮是被云遮住了。换句话说，灵魂被身体、思想、感官和自我所覆盖，并且在照亮这些东西。所以我们看到一个人的光辉、眼神，以及那些告诉我们有一个人的存在的信号和迹象，实际上灵魂是在背后，我们感兴趣的正是这一点。我们可以说，意识就是这样。
灵魂存在的一个迹象就是，灵魂在推动这一切，灵魂在推动客观进化。师父说，主观进化和客观进化是相辅相成的。所以我们可以说，在意识的主观进化中，灵魂是从低等物种进化过来的，从水生物到植物，再到昆虫、鸟类、野兽，最后到人类。现在你已经获得了人类的生命，能够理解我在说什么，能够听到我想传达给你的东西。
既然你能够正确地理解这些事情，因为你现在是一个有意识的存在，不仅知道自己存在，还意识到内心的某种需求。曾经我一个朋友说，斯里拉·斯里达婚姻有这种非凡的能力去解释事情。他说你能不能请他给我们讲讲灵魂的基本知识，那样就太好了，我们可以把这个发布出去，去说服很多人。当我把这个想法告诉斯里拉·古鲁马哈拉杰时，他说这是一个信仰的问题。
他说，如果一个人毫无底线，你再提供一大堆证据，他们也不会接受，根本不会打动他们。而如果一个人有一点基本的信念，那给个简单的解释他们就懂了。我就想，哦，就像克里希那在《博伽梵歌》第二章中给出的一系列很容易理解的例子，都是大家都有过的经历。还有一句，巴萨姆·西·贾纳尼，意为当你有一件衣服、外套、裙子、衬衫等等。
它变得旧了、磨损了，你就扔掉，换个新的，很简单。就像格罗梅特说的，如果有信心，就会有人接受；如果没有，不管你怎么解释，给什么样的证据，都不会被接受。所以我们用这些眼睛看，用耳朵听，品尝、触摸、闻、感受，这些都表明了灵魂的本质。灵魂可以听、说、闻、感受等等，这就是好消息。因此，克里希纳意识是一个让你实现灵性成长的项目。
揭开那些层次，稍微一瞥自己和我们现实中的潜力。我们每个人都有自己的角色要扮演，还有精神层面的真实自我。
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you can't remain in the neutral position that's the principle die to live if you want to go to a higher position you'll have to die as you are at present then that painful condition will finish you'll find yourself in another plane but guru maharaj continues to say and the more you die the more you live german says give heart and receive heart that's the most wonderful thing about krishna consciousness not anticipating something else give heart receive heart go deeper go deeper how does guru maharaj render go deeperdive deep into reality theodore rozak he wrote a book called the cult of information and one example he gave there he said and he's someone using a computer when he's mentioned like i have a file cabinet next to my desk and in that file cabinet there's so much information or data so does that mean that it's superior to me all right i've got this box here with you know or here's here and the old the phone book it i don't know all the names in the phone book so um [Music] what is in important isthe interpreter the feeler right one machine could convey to another machine as they do an email you know that someone just passed away right and blazing you know from and it just happened to me recently they send a message from somewhere saying some person passed away and the machines are capable of uh even suggest you know beloved condolences i you know they can suggest all of these things but they're originally suggestions from human beings who had feelings so those computers they have no feeling about what wasthis message that was sent on either side but it was meaningful to the person who sent it to me they were full of feelings and this actually was secondary to what their feelings were right and there can even be typos or misprints or so many other things that but and and even factoring that in i can i can understand what their feelings are we know from the sanskrit terminology when they use the word atma atma can be synonymous with soul or self and then we're told but there are many different concepts of selfa bodily conception of self a mental conception of self and intellectual conception of self in the bhagavad gita in the the early part in the second chapter krishna speaking on the knowledge of the soul the subject of soul and he's giving various examples that are within our experience and it's equated to identity but we know you can have you can misconceive your identity or you can properly conceive i say self-actualization self-realization is about properly conceiving your identity and subsequent self-determinationbut i find it interesting that you could give some very complicated uh arguments or descriptions one could and certainly krishna could right he's the omniscient omnipotent personality of godhead he could give the most sophisticated complex argument for the existence of the soul beyond our imagination so we come back to this infinite perspective and finite perspective it is in the interest of the finite to adopt infinite perspective we can't imagine how that will enhance our position we'll think well i want to know what ishould be doing or who am i or what is my purpose that's all very good but what is it going to be based upon acquired prejudice of a a misconceived self people thinking the most important thing of their uh aspect of their lives is their sexuality that's who they are and they need to express their sexuality and then they'll be free they'll be liberated they'll live a life of freedom and happiness by identifying with a particular aspect of sexuality i mean i'm not making this up so they think that's freedom freedom toexpress yourself that i i profess this type of sexual preference now i'm a liberated soul and i want to be viewed exclusively in terms of my sexuality so then we have to consider what is freedom what is liberation freedom for the senses or freedom from the sun says most people will think no it means freedom for the senses to do what you want right so should we say that someone who's under the influence and the language of the scripture you know vaccio vega the belly tongue and genitals they're engaged in self-expression[Music] that's a liberated position really that the tongue wants to eat this so i allow the tongue to drag me in a direction that's freedom i'm i'm expressing who i am bhaktivinoda thakura in jaipur dharma says when water is frozen in its frozen stage as ice you can identify so many trades qualities characteristics but that's not its normal position its normal position is liquidity right as water but so if we're analyzing the self uh our self any self in the frozen stage right in the temporary realitynot the permanent reality but the temporary reality then we can make so many observations are we the clothes that we wear is that what defines us our dress well i mean it does to a certain degree right what you wear defines you so you can say yes dress defines but is shall that be the exclusive marker for defining an individual is how they dress no that would be absurd to suggest that so if we look b that's literally closed then we're told thomas the body is karmic dress shall that be the means to define an individualwell no it should be we can't deny someone's a human being someone's a dog someone is a tree right so and we're responsible for the karmic dress we're situated and at present but if we limit defining ourselves to that that would be as if to limit defining ourselves to the clothes that we're wearing why should we do that all these things taken into consider when krishna gives an example i believe it's a very good one you could give so many examples but just think about it if he gives a particular examplehe must have some concept of it landing right or being received and we see that although he's omniscient and so many dense almost impenetrable philosophical works are written about krsna even the most remote aspect of krishna that when he himself gives an example it's very simple that anyone could understand practically a child could understand so when he says day he you're saying as the soul that means the conscious cell is in an embryonic body and then in the body of a baby a toddler a child a teenagera young adult an adult then middle age old age there is this one constant identity that is enabled that doubter or believer the believer of doubter is able to sustain all these different bodily changes and retain a particular identity that's the point he's making it doesn't dismiss the possibility or growth or development but the core identity remains the same from the embryonic position and to the top of baby toddler child teenager adult and and into old age this is something that is within your experiencethe so-called change of bodies if you didn't tell it in this way it would be something beyond your experience but this is something that we're experiencing if we did a time lapse of ourselves you know and sometimes they do this but or people they take a picture every year on the same day there are many things like this on the internet and then you see the person sort of grow and develop but it's the same person their same core identity is there so that's the example he gives and then he adds somethingthat we may feel is beyond our experience he says so in a similar way you'll have another transition at the time of death right and that'll be based upon yum yum whatever your uses the word bav interestingly you can say consciousness but above more to the point means your heart which in the words of the poet is the deep heart's core right that's the consciousness deep heart's core because we're not talking about the physical heart what that is will determine the body that is generated right the body being the biologicalexpression of the soul's delusion who you really are underneath all the layers of acquired prejudice and false ego and karmic dress your actual identity with all the masks are removed like in greek uh [Music] theater you know what they call persona they have you'd put on a mask happy mask sad mask so they show those masks sometimes as representations of theatrical performance they're saying so what is my identity underneath the mask the karmically acquired mask of acquired prejudice expressed in the karmic dress of mypresent life form body so if you're viewing the self from the outside in and seeing yourself in terms of gender nationality age all of these things you're not having a proper glimpse of yourself and who you are and what is your potential how can you proceed the sanskrit word sangskar one meaning is impressions so jaladan of alakkan is tower luck of injury evolving transmigrating through millions and millions of life forms so many impressions are coming mental impressions are being gathered acquired and prejudicing the soul in itsuh interpretation of self what am i who am i what is my purpose and so people of that ilk think you know they're all about self-expression and i've just got to be me you know sure you should be you but find out who you are first the ego intelligence mind and senses are a shadow self of the original self just like we see in this world too you can see the shadow of something is based upon the the real thing right so it's the he's saying for the conscious subject to experience the mundane it can't do itdirectly so what does it have to do you have to have a shadow representation of the soul or the conscious self and that shadow can operate in the shadowy world otherwise conscious cannot consciousness cannot negotiate the unconscious plane so guru maharaj introduced the conception of chayabas chitibas a shadow covering himself shadow ego shadow intellect shadow mind shadow body shadow senses it's a shadow self operating in the shadow world and we're making so many observations about shadow like existence but if we want toget to the heart of the matter you know go into the deep into the deep hearts core then we'll have to undo unravel all the layering of acquired prejudice to have a glimpse of our actual self so we try to come under the influence of the revealed truth we say oh in bhagavad-gita krishna says above the objects or the sense of the senses are the senses they're higher refined they're superior but above the senses is the mind okay the mind is higher than the sun says and it's the seat of sense experiencethen he says finer than the mind is intelligence when you say okay now i understand intelligence discriminating factor because the mind has no discriminating ability so we're told you need to infuse the intelligence with dharma booty back to sadhu shastra guru vaishnav finer than intelligence he's saying what that's the beginning of the atma plane so that's where the self is located the cloud is covering the moon but the moon is illuminating the cloud so all you see is the cloud but without theillumination of the moon you'd see nothing so don't think the cloud the illumined cloud is the real thing it's the moon that's covered by the cloud so what it means to say is the soul is covered by the body mind senses ego and is illuminating them so what we see the radiance of a person the look in their eyes the signals signs that tell us of a of a presence of a person really the souls in the background and that's our interest we're going to say consciousness is the symptom of the soul's presencethat the soul is what's driving all of this the soul is driving objective evolution that srila guru maharaj says subjective evolution parallels objective evolution so we can say in the subjective evolution of consciousness that the soul is evolving from lower species from aquatics to plants to insects birds beasts at last to the human species now that you've achieved human life now that you can understand what i'm saying now that you can hear what i'm trying to convey to you now that you can conceive such thingsproperly now that you're a conscious being who's not only aware of your existence but of a particular inner necessity you have so once a friend of mine said because srila sridhar marriage has this extraordinary ability to um explain things he said would you ask him to give this basic knowledge of the soul and that would be great then we can publish that and convince so many people and when i presented this idea to srila guru maharaj he said it is a question of faith he said um if someone has no face you could present a mountain of evidenceand they won't accept it it won't touch them it won't reach them and he said whereas if someone has some basic faith then given a simple explanation i'll get it and then i thought oh like krishna does in the second chapter of the bhagavad-gita gives a series of very uh relatable examples that are within everyone's experience another one you know bassam si jianani itavihaya when you you have a garment or a code a dress a shirt whatever it might be and it becomes old and worn out you toss it and get a new onevery simple and like grommet said if there's some faith then there'll be acceptance and if not it doesn't matter how you explain it what sort of type of explanation you give what sort of evidence it won't be accepted so we're seeing through these eyes hearing tasting touching smelling feeling this is indicative of the soul's innate position the soul can hear stay smell feel etc this is the good news so krishna consciousness is a spiritual project that allows you to uncover discover those layers andhave a glimpse of oneself and of our reality potential we have a part to play as a person and the spiritual reality you